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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1980 on: June 26, 2018, 03:09:05 PM »
http://www.irgz.ch/downloads/koscherliste_aktuell.pdf
I linked to the source page, because they sometimes have updates to the list.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1981 on: June 26, 2018, 03:55:56 PM »
Thanx but I have looked thru the list numerous times without finding anything. I assume Jews in Switzerland drink beer........

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1982 on: June 26, 2018, 04:37:31 PM »
I assume Jews in Switzerland drink beer........
You bet.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1983 on: June 26, 2018, 07:49:01 PM »
so what do they drink? anything on tap?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1984 on: June 26, 2018, 09:32:13 PM »
What’s a fun or interesting thing to do in Zurich?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1985 on: June 26, 2018, 11:51:01 PM »
You probably meant to say it stops in ZRH. Its just 3-4 hours from Villars by train.. and if you are joining TourPlus. Enjoy! You will have a good stay.
No, I meant Geneva. Coming from USA, stop in GVA, and second leg to ZRH. I want to get off at GVA, and not continue on the next leg to ZRH.
Thanks

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1986 on: July 09, 2018, 02:07:10 AM »
We got a parking ticket as we didn't have any chf coins to pay with.  Any way to explain or to fight it? This was by lake brienz.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1987 on: July 09, 2018, 10:39:56 AM »
We got a parking ticket as we didn't have any chf coins to pay with.  Any way to explain or to fight it? This was by lake brienz.

Switzerland is a civil law system. If you get a fine, you pay for it. You can take things to court, but then you will have to pay additional court fees,
and one rarely wins, as the country goes by the "selber schuld" principle (It's your own fault).

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1988 on: July 09, 2018, 10:45:11 AM »
Switzerland is a civil law system. If you get a fine, you pay for it. You can take things to court, but then you will have to pay additional court fees,
and one rarely wins, as the country goes by the "selber schuld" principle (It's your own fault).
Thanks.  I figured that's the case
 Nu some more money spent on this beautiful expensive country

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1989 on: July 13, 2018, 05:33:43 PM »
There's a new full year Hotel in Davos except the one Levin has.

Anyone booked this hotel?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1990 on: July 15, 2018, 06:26:12 AM »
I'm staying in Davos in the summer anyone know where i can order food?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1991 on: July 15, 2018, 08:00:02 AM »
I'm staying in Davos in the summer anyone know where i can order food?
Do you mean takeout? Then you will only have that before Shabbos. The Belzers have a takeout for Shabbos.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1992 on: July 15, 2018, 03:29:16 PM »
Do you mean takeout? Then you will only have that before Shabbos. The Belzers have a takeout for Shabbos.
It seems I may be wrong. There is a takeout but it gets snatched very fast.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1993 on: July 15, 2018, 03:58:14 PM »
Thanks. Do you have a number from that place?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1994 on: July 16, 2018, 04:51:21 PM »
I want to go this summer again to Switzerland. But this time for some reason i wont be able to leave behind my 6 month old daughter (will be 1 year then) I know many people from Europe that go with kids but they don't do the major attractions, they go to local parks but that's obviously not what I'm looking for. I want to go for a week and enjoy maxi but i have my daughter in my way... can anyone who was in this dilemma advise how we can make it work? I was thinking of a baby carrier but am skeptical if it will work, also i wont be able to go too high up since the oxygen level is low and might be dangerous for a baby.
@VacationLover did you ever end up doing this trip with a 1 year old?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1995 on: July 16, 2018, 06:46:28 PM »
@VacationLover did you ever end up doing this trip with a 1 year old?

I'm going to st Moritz in a a few weeks with my one year old and have no concern with the climate. There are children born and raised in Switzerland as well.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1996 on: July 16, 2018, 08:49:44 PM »
I'm going to st Moritz in a a few weeks with my one year old and have no concern with the climate. There are children born and raised in Switzerland as well.
Question is how how in altitude you can go

Additionally, I wanted to know if he ended up getting a carrier, or used a carriage

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1997 on: July 17, 2018, 07:42:39 AM »
Question is how how in altitude you can go

Additionally, I wanted to know if he ended up getting a carrier, or used a carriage

St. Moritz is at about 1,800 meters (5,910 ft) above sea level. When one is flying on a commercial airliner, the cabin
is pressurized to about 2,100 m (7,000 ft) while cruising at 11,000 m (37,000 ft).

For a baby under 24 months, I think the general guideline is not to exceed 2,500 meters (8,200 ft), although there are a few capitals in the world
which are much higher than that, ie. La Paz, Bolivia - 3,640 m (11, 942 ft); Quito, Ecuador -  2,850 metres (9,350 ft).

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1998 on: July 17, 2018, 08:23:43 AM »
St. Moritz is at about 1,800 meters (5,910 ft) above sea level. When one is flying on a commercial airliner, the cabin
is pressurized to about 2,100 m (7,000 ft) while cruising at 11,000 m (37,000 ft).

For a baby under 24 months, I think the general guideline is not to exceed 2,500 meters (8,200 ft), although there are a few capitals in the world
which are much higher than that, ie. La Paz, Bolivia - 3,640 m (11, 942 ft); Quito, Ecuador -  2,850 metres (9,350 ft).
So if I was planning on going up the Titlis, I should change my plan?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1999 on: July 17, 2018, 09:10:09 AM »
So if I was planning on going up the Titlis, I should change my plan?

https://www.myswissalps.com/titlis -- "The Titlis station is located at an altitude of 3032 m. Anyone can suffer from (light) altitude sickness from about 2000 m. Usually it helps to take things slow and sit down for a while. Special precautions apply to children under 2 years old, as well as people who are pregnant or in poor health: before visiting areas over 2500 m, you'd better consult your doctor. In most cases though, staying at such altitudes for just a few hours is no problem."

However, I would guess if one would first acclimatize the infant by staying at an altitude of 2,000 meters for 24 hours, it shouldn't be an issue to proceed to 3,000 meters the next day. And worst case, if feeling the symptoms of altitude symptoms -- one can immediately take a cable car down. Just infants cannot communicate.