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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #340 on: March 12, 2012, 09:24:41 AM »
is 7 hours enough to go into zrh for food and get back to the airport?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #341 on: March 12, 2012, 09:25:53 AM »
is 7 hours enough to go into zrh for food and get back to the airport?
7 hour stopver in ZRH? Sure. I would do it on a 3 hour.
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #342 on: March 12, 2012, 09:26:52 AM »
Where should I go for quick takeout? How to get there?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #343 on: March 12, 2012, 09:28:57 AM »
Where should I go for quick takeout? How to get there?
Fein by shein is a quick take out. Train to central st. Bahnoff strasse and a tram from there.
Very possibly the airplane food will be better.
I might be there April 3
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #344 on: March 15, 2012, 03:58:46 AM »
For F&S I wouldn't leave the airport.

Interesting that its the only place that survived along the years.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #345 on: March 15, 2012, 08:16:33 AM »
For F&S I wouldn't leave the airport.

Interesting that its the only place that survived along the years.
Sometimes leaving the airport is easier than staying there.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #346 on: March 15, 2012, 08:58:27 AM »
Sometimes leaving the airport is easier than staying there.

can't imagine spending 6 hours at the panorama lounge....

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #347 on: March 17, 2012, 03:28:29 PM »
You tried this http://www.sbb.ch/en/home.html I assume..?
yes, the website is in english but the pdf file is in german

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #348 on: March 17, 2012, 03:31:08 PM »
also is there a hachnasas orchim place where i can stay for cheap
or a shul where i can drop my bags
and lastly, a lounge in zrh that amex plat gives u access to?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #349 on: March 17, 2012, 04:26:32 PM »
also is there a hachnasas orchim place where i can stay for cheap
or a shul where i can drop my bags
and lastly, a lounge in zrh that amex plat gives u access to?

if u have amex plat get them to send you your priority pass select card which will get you into lounges at ZRH....

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #350 on: April 01, 2012, 02:07:16 PM »
Im going to be in Zurich for 2 nights and one day in between. I'd like to go to arosa for the day because they have the cheapest option to really see the alps (13 CHF for an all inclusive card). Is there any day pass or cheaper way to get to arosa? the quote on sbb.ch is 104 CHF pp for rt.
any ideas?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #351 on: April 01, 2012, 02:41:21 PM »
when I was there 2 weeks ago for a day, we got someone from switzerland to buy us a day pass for most transportation for 40 CHF, it got mailed to their house in switzerland. all we had to pay for was the train ride from the airport to weidikon station it was 6.40 CHF. (actually I never validated the card so tecnically it was free, seems like the local trains are free!!!) I didn't see anything like this online, maybe only people from switzerland can get this. but if u can get your hands on this it would be the cheapest way

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #352 on: April 01, 2012, 10:46:54 PM »
when I was there 2 weeks ago for a day, we got someone from switzerland to buy us a day pass for most transportation for 40 CHF, it got mailed to their house in switzerland. all we had to pay for was the train ride from the airport to weidikon station it was 6.40 CHF. (actually I never validated the card so tecnically it was free, seems like the local trains are free!!!) I didn't see anything like this online, maybe only people from switzerland can get this. but if u can get your hands on this it would be the cheapest way
keep in mind- the day pass only works for one calendar day, if you plan on going on your first night there.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #353 on: April 02, 2012, 03:02:48 PM »
I've done some research and realized what I need is a "Geminde's Tagaskarte".
My problem is it can only be bought by a swiss resident. Is there anyone who can/or knows someone who would be able to buy this for me and I would pay you for this?

PM me if you can help. Thanks!

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #354 on: April 02, 2012, 04:35:24 PM »
very good, you figured it out. A gemeindekarte is what you need. its a major pain to get, most places dont mail them, even the ones that do. You gotta wire the money in advance....

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #355 on: April 02, 2012, 07:44:53 PM »
I've done some research and realized what I need is a "Geminde's Tagaskarte".
My problem is it can only be bought by a swiss resident. Is there anyone who can/or knows someone who would be able to buy this for me and I would pay you for this?

PM me if you can help. Thanks!

I've had this done, to get the rägeboge karte, which is also for unlimited travel.

A swiss guy could buy it for you, but it would have his name on it, but he could later attach your picture on it (if it needs one).

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #356 on: April 03, 2012, 01:41:51 AM »
I've had this done, to get the rägeboge karte, which is also for unlimited travel.

A swiss guy could buy it for you, but it would have his name on it, but he could later attach your picture on it (if it needs one).

it seems from the research i did on the switzerland english forum, that there are different options, the one I am asking about has to be bought by one person in swiss, but can be used by anyone, no id is attached to it.

am i wrong?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #357 on: April 03, 2012, 01:53:48 AM »
the day pass that the guy in switzerland bought for me had no Id on it. It was the card that starts with a G!!!

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #358 on: April 03, 2012, 01:58:04 AM »
yes thats the one the "Gemeinde Tageskarte"

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #359 on: April 03, 2012, 02:00:53 AM »
yup! looks right!!  Can't say it sounds right though!! :)