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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Olive Garden - Located inside he JCC
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge


Milk/Parve:

Fein und Schein - cafe type of place; ambience lacking, but hey, food is food

Bagels and Co.  (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Books & Bagels - combination bagel shop and judaica store

Bakery:

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
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Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2055 on: October 21, 2018, 07:24:50 PM »
Hi everyone,
I've read a ton on DDF, google, trip advisor, etc...I think i read the first 20 pages on here and then skipped to page 100; now im up to 127.
I currently have reservations for Shabbos Chanukah (Dec 6-9) with my wife in Brienz in a very nice airbnb; this is around 30 min out of the jungfreu region, overlooks the mountains, and is basically on lake brienzersee.
I personally have been here (Jungfreau and Lucerne) when I was single and was just in awe of how beautiful it was, so I didn't mind going back to see it with her.
Heres my question:
Im considering changing our base because she doens't care where we go and I would love to see more of the country. Is it worth it to go to a place like Saas Fee? Crans Montana?  St Moritz? or even to move inside the Jungfeu (like laturburnen)?
I heard that St Moritz is beautiful but not the most spectacular of the alps.
When it comes to SF and CM, Im a bit concerned just about the distance from Zurich. We land on Thursday at 930am and we leave on sunday at 120pm. Im just concerned there isnt enough difference to where Im currently staying to these places to justify driving 3 hours after a long flight or early sunday morning (vs an hour or so). This is honestly probably the biggest reason why Im not going to Saas Fee; SF is a 4 hour drive, St Moritz is 3 hours, CM is 4 hours, while the jungfreu is at worst, 2 hours.
I want to have the best views, good but not great accommodations (due to budget), and something cool to do on friday (like going up the schilthorn for example).
Does anyone have personal experience they'd like to contribute? Should I consider moving my plans to a new place and just make the drive?

Thanks in advance!
the alps in the South (SM SF CM) are beautiful, but that is if you have time to get there from ZRH or land in GVA.

In your case keep in mind SF will be the furthest, SM closer but still a 3.5 hour drive with possible slippery roads. I would prefer Jungfrau as it is IMHO the nicest of them. That is if I would not care for the higher apartment prices.

Also, Lauterbrunen is at the foot of the Jungfrau, Wengen and Manlichen have far better views.

BTW CM has Minyan and Kosher food

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2056 on: October 22, 2018, 06:43:01 AM »
Are credit cards readily accepted in Zurich, and can I rely on using ATMs with my American debit card?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2057 on: October 22, 2018, 07:57:39 AM »
the alps in the South (SM SF CM) are beautiful, but that is if you have time to get there from ZRH or land in GVA.

In your case keep in mind SF will be the furthest, SM closer but still a 3.5 hour drive with possible slippery roads. I would prefer Jungfrau as it is IMHO the nicest of them. That is if I would not care for the higher apartment prices.

Also, Lauterbrunen is at the foot of the Jungfrau, Wengen and Manlichen have far better views.

BTW CM has Minyan and Kosher food
Thanks so much,
maybe Im mistaken because youre the third person to tell me, but I thought I had emailed CM about a minyan and they said starting Dec 23. I assumed they were also talking about food as well but I could be mistaken about that as well...

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2058 on: October 22, 2018, 11:48:07 AM »
Are credit cards readily accepted in Zurich, and can I rely on using ATMs with my American debit card?
Yes. Credit cards are accepted all over Switzerland and there are ATMs all over.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2059 on: October 22, 2018, 02:40:02 PM »
Are credit cards readily accepted in Zurich, and can I rely on using ATMs with my American debit card?

IME there were some restaurants at top of mountains that were reluctant to take CC.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2060 on: October 22, 2018, 04:22:45 PM »
Landing on a Thursday evening. Any place open then to buy food?
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« Reply #2061 on: October 23, 2018, 12:46:58 AM »
Landing on a Thursday evening. Any place open then to buy food?
What time? There aren't that many options in the first place. If you want milchig there is Fein in Schein, and New York Bagel (or Pizza). For Fleishig, there is Olive Garden I believe. I've never went there. Fein in schein is very pleasant and is in the Yiddish neighborhood.

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« Reply #2062 on: October 23, 2018, 06:55:05 AM »
What time? There aren't that many options in the first place. If you want milchig there is Fein in Schein, and New York Bagel (or Pizza). For Fleishig, there is Olive Garden I believe. I've never went there. Fein in schein is very pleasant and is in the Yiddish neighborhood.

Officially scheduled to land at 7:25 pm. Not sure how long it will take to get into Zurich, but want to be able to buy something to eat when I get in. Doesn’t need to be a restaurant or even a kosher deli. Just something so I don’t go to bed hungry.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2063 on: October 23, 2018, 07:46:23 AM »
anybody know if there are any frum people or even just jewish people who try and rent out their vacation homes in Switzerland? I don't need it to be kosher. Im just curious if there people who maybe wouldnt list on airbnb but also would be willing to rent out their vacation place since they aren't using it a particular week...

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2064 on: October 23, 2018, 09:10:42 AM »
anybody know if there are any frum people or even just jewish people who try and rent out their vacation homes in Switzerland? I don't need it to be kosher. Im just curious if there people who maybe wouldnt list on airbnb but also would be willing to rent out their vacation place since they aren't using it a particular week...

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2065 on: October 23, 2018, 10:56:13 AM »
What time? There aren't that many options in the first place. If you want milchig there is Fein in Schein, and New York Bagel (or Pizza). For Fleishig, there is Olive Garden I believe. I've never went there. Fein in schein is very pleasant and is in the Yiddish neighborhood.
We ate in Olive Garden when we were there in August & the food was really good

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2066 on: October 23, 2018, 01:17:36 PM »
Officially scheduled to land at 7:25 pm. Not sure how long it will take to get into Zurich, but want to be able to buy something to eat when I get in. Doesn’t need to be a restaurant or even a kosher deli. Just something so I don’t go to bed hungry.
They sell stuff in the grocery across from the Shul on Erikastrasse. Kosher City. Stuff like Danishes and coldcuts etc. I'm pretty sure the restaurants will be open then.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2067 on: October 23, 2018, 02:41:15 PM »
Was wondering... Have 4 hour stop in 2 weeks in ZRH from TLV. Is it too risky to leave the airport? And if you would leave, where would you go for a short visit? Thanks

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2068 on: October 23, 2018, 03:01:29 PM »
Was wondering... Have 4 hour stop in 2 weeks in ZRH from TLV. Is it too risky to leave the airport? And if you would leave, where would you go for a short visit? Thanks
Seems Risky You need to be by the airport 2 hours before your flight that leaves you 2 hours to go out and come back and do what you need to do. I do not see any point. Find a lounge and relax

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« Reply #2069 on: October 23, 2018, 03:43:41 PM »
Thanks