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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2060 on: October 22, 2018, 04:22:45 PM »
Landing on a Thursday evening. Any place open then to buy food?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2061 on: October 23, 2018, 12:46:58 AM »
Landing on a Thursday evening. Any place open then to buy food?
What time? There aren't that many options in the first place. If you want milchig there is Fein in Schein, and New York Bagel (or Pizza). For Fleishig, there is Olive Garden I believe. I've never went there. Fein in schein is very pleasant and is in the Yiddish neighborhood.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2062 on: October 23, 2018, 06:55:05 AM »
What time? There aren't that many options in the first place. If you want milchig there is Fein in Schein, and New York Bagel (or Pizza). For Fleishig, there is Olive Garden I believe. I've never went there. Fein in schein is very pleasant and is in the Yiddish neighborhood.

Officially scheduled to land at 7:25 pm. Not sure how long it will take to get into Zurich, but want to be able to buy something to eat when I get in. Doesn’t need to be a restaurant or even a kosher deli. Just something so I don’t go to bed hungry.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2063 on: October 23, 2018, 07:46:23 AM »
anybody know if there are any frum people or even just jewish people who try and rent out their vacation homes in Switzerland? I don't need it to be kosher. Im just curious if there people who maybe wouldnt list on airbnb but also would be willing to rent out their vacation place since they aren't using it a particular week...

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2064 on: October 23, 2018, 09:10:42 AM »
anybody know if there are any frum people or even just jewish people who try and rent out their vacation homes in Switzerland? I don't need it to be kosher. Im just curious if there people who maybe wouldnt list on airbnb but also would be willing to rent out their vacation place since they aren't using it a particular week...

I know of a guy in Zurich who rents a room in his apartment. PM me if you’re interested.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2065 on: October 23, 2018, 10:56:13 AM »
What time? There aren't that many options in the first place. If you want milchig there is Fein in Schein, and New York Bagel (or Pizza). For Fleishig, there is Olive Garden I believe. I've never went there. Fein in schein is very pleasant and is in the Yiddish neighborhood.
We ate in Olive Garden when we were there in August & the food was really good

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2066 on: October 23, 2018, 01:17:36 PM »
Officially scheduled to land at 7:25 pm. Not sure how long it will take to get into Zurich, but want to be able to buy something to eat when I get in. Doesn’t need to be a restaurant or even a kosher deli. Just something so I don’t go to bed hungry.
They sell stuff in the grocery across from the Shul on Erikastrasse. Kosher City. Stuff like Danishes and coldcuts etc. I'm pretty sure the restaurants will be open then.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2067 on: October 23, 2018, 02:41:15 PM »
Was wondering... Have 4 hour stop in 2 weeks in ZRH from TLV. Is it too risky to leave the airport? And if you would leave, where would you go for a short visit? Thanks

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2068 on: October 23, 2018, 03:01:29 PM »
Was wondering... Have 4 hour stop in 2 weeks in ZRH from TLV. Is it too risky to leave the airport? And if you would leave, where would you go for a short visit? Thanks
Seems Risky You need to be by the airport 2 hours before your flight that leaves you 2 hours to go out and come back and do what you need to do. I do not see any point. Find a lounge and relax

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2069 on: October 23, 2018, 03:43:41 PM »
Thanks

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2070 on: October 24, 2018, 02:31:10 AM »
Seems Risky You need to be by the airport 2 hours before your flight that leaves you 2 hours to go out and come back and do what you need to do. I do not see any point. Find a lounge and relax
+1 Not enough time to leave the airport and be back without risk.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2071 on: October 24, 2018, 02:36:17 PM »
I disagree. If they just want to visit the city there is a train every few minutes so they could make a quick trip back and forth. The Jewish neighborhood is about a 15 minute train ride.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2072 on: October 31, 2018, 03:15:45 PM »
I have an 11 hour stopover (landing at noon and leaving 11 pm) on Nov 22nd.
Would that be enough time to go up a mountain (any suggestions which are an option) and or some other nice views and get food?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2073 on: October 31, 2018, 09:37:05 PM »
Just read back a few pages and see the wiki. In any case it's off season so some mountains may be closed for renovations, and weather may be constant rain in November, but Titlis is probably a good bet. Check the websites, it will say if there lifts are closed or open.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2074 on: November 01, 2018, 02:54:17 PM »
I have an 11 hour stopover (landing at noon and leaving 11 pm) on Nov 22nd.
Would that be enough time to go up a mountain (any suggestions which are an option) and or some other nice views and get food?
Would recommend you stay in Zurich, or maybe take the train to Lucerne. Going up to the mountains this time of year can yield weeks of unending rain and fog.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2075 on: November 01, 2018, 05:56:57 PM »
Check the weather that day when you arrive.
Would recommend you stay in Zurich, or maybe take the train to Lucerne. Going up to the mountains this time of year can yield weeks of unending rain and fog.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2076 on: December 08, 2018, 02:28:51 PM »
Anywhere in Zurich that I can get a quick breakfast early Sunday morning?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2077 on: December 10, 2018, 05:56:20 PM »
Seems Risky You need to be by the airport 2 hours before your flight that leaves you 2 hours to go out and come back and do what you need to do. I do not see any point. Find a lounge and relax
Is there something different about ZRH? 2 hours seems like a lot of time, especially since your luggage is checked through.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2078 on: December 12, 2018, 06:46:24 AM »
Is there something different about ZRH? 2 hours seems like a lot of time, especially since your luggage is checked through.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2079 on: December 12, 2018, 06:47:44 AM »
Anywhere in Zurich that I can get a quick breakfast early Sunday morning?

I meant "no" to this Question.