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Kosher food list 2022

Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2160 on: March 28, 2019, 06:04:10 PM »
Does anyone know what kosher food is available at the grocery store in Davos at this time of year?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2161 on: March 28, 2019, 08:36:12 PM »
Does anyone know what kosher food is available at the grocery store in Davos at this time of year?
You can get the kosher list for Switzerland which lists all the products that you can buy in all the chain stores

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2162 on: March 29, 2019, 07:18:55 AM »
Does anyone know what kosher food is available at the grocery store in Davos at this time of year?

http://www.irgz.ch/downloads/koscherliste_aktuell.pdf


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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2163 on: March 29, 2019, 07:20:59 AM »
You can get the kosher list for Switzerland which lists all the products that you can buy in all the chain stores
Tough to rely on this, and a PITA to shop with this list.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2164 on: March 29, 2019, 07:34:43 AM »
?  What do you mean

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2165 on: March 29, 2019, 10:31:01 AM »
Tough to rely on this, and a PITA to shop with this list.
:o

Everyone in Switzerland relies on this. And not hard to use if you know how to read.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2166 on: March 29, 2019, 10:36:01 AM »
:o

Everyone in Switzerland relies on this. And not hard to use if you know how to read.
There are kosher grocery stores thelat filter out all the not kosher stuff.
Took me a LONG time to shop with the list
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« Reply #2167 on: March 29, 2019, 10:37:31 AM »
There are kosher grocery stores thelat filter out all the not kosher stuff.
Took me a LONG time to shop with the list
That's part of the fun. There are many cool products that are kosher that you can find in Switzerland. Besides, if you want to buy stuff at reasonable prices you would want to shop at the Migros anyways. And the Kosher store can't carry their store brand products.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2168 on: March 29, 2019, 10:39:56 AM »


There are many cool products that are kosher that you can find in Switzerland.
Examples? I'll be there this week.

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« Reply #2169 on: March 29, 2019, 10:46:42 AM »
That's part of the fun. There are many cool products that are kosher that you can find in Switzerland. Besides, if you want to buy stuff at reasonable prices you would want to shop at the Migros anyways. And the Kosher store can't carry their store brand products.
We got the necessities at a kosher place, and the rest at a regular place, but to rely on the list for everything IMHO is a PITA and time consuming.
Examples? I'll be there this week.
Thomys mayo for those into that
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2170 on: March 29, 2019, 10:47:24 AM »
Examples? I'll be there this week.
Delicious sorbets, potato chips, breads (Pas Yisroel some places, some times), interesting (not necessarily good) parve chocolates. Once you're at it, the meat by the butcher is delicious and has some stuff that are made differently than here that are so much better (hot dogs for one).

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« Reply #2171 on: March 29, 2019, 11:06:07 AM »
Delicious sorbets, potato chips, breads (Pas Yisroel some places, some times), interesting (not necessarily good) parve chocolates. Once you're at it, the meat by the butcher is delicious and has some stuff that are made differently than here that are so much better (hot dogs for one).
Thanks.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2172 on: March 29, 2019, 11:08:38 AM »
Examples? I'll be there this week.
Zweifel chips are the best chips I had. Only some of the flavors are kosher

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2173 on: March 29, 2019, 12:44:58 PM »
Examples? I'll be there this week.


https://www.koltuv.ch/de/sortiment/17/charcuterie      Cold cuts are famous.  The israelis buys tons of them.

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« Reply #2174 on: March 29, 2019, 02:48:37 PM »

https://www.koltuv.ch/de/sortiment/17/charcuterie      Cold cuts are famous.  The israelis buys tons of them.
+1. Other delicious stuff, too.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2175 on: March 31, 2019, 05:21:41 AM »
Hello, I am reaching out for advice from all the experts here.
I am traveling from JFK to TLV after pesach- family of 8.  date is apr 6,  Monday.
12 hour stop in Zurich, land 11 AM.
would love to see the alps.
what is best way to do this?  I mean the cheapest, but also the way that will enable this to happen on a tight schedule.
use the trains?
rent a van?
hire a driver?

and where is best to go?
Titlis or Pilatus?

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« Reply #2176 on: March 31, 2019, 06:17:59 AM »
Possible to get stamped and back in on a 4:45 stopover (8:10-12:55)?
Possibly to do anything outside the airport?
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« Reply #2177 on: March 31, 2019, 08:17:26 AM »
Possible to get stamped and back in on a 4:45 stopover (8:10-12:55)?
Possibly to do anything outside the airport?

Take the train from the airport to the main train station in Zürich - 20 min ride
walk down the Bahnhofstrasse, main street in Zürich, till the lake and back to the station

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« Reply #2178 on: March 31, 2019, 12:16:35 PM »
Take the train from the airport to the main train station in Zürich - 20 min ride
walk down the Bahnhofstrasse, main street in Zürich, till the lake and back to the station
Thank you.
Know what train name it is, and what station?
 Edit: S16?
Edit 2: and the station name is Zurich main station. Lol. Thanks
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« Reply #2179 on: March 31, 2019, 12:24:00 PM »
Take the train from the airport to the main train station in Zürich - 20 min ride
walk down the Bahnhofstrasse, main street in Zürich, till the lake and back to the station
How much does the train cost?
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