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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
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Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2340 on: June 24, 2021, 02:59:04 AM »
cresta will not be opening this year
there are very few options of hotels
Re the price if you are taking about the 2 kosher hotels you are right Kempinsky is much more expensive but if you are taking about renting an apartment or hotel you can find nice places for decent prices just make sure it comes with the summer pass
Where would I find nice clean apt.? And how about food would any of the hotels give if not staying there? Or any takeouts thru the summer?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2341 on: July 07, 2021, 08:41:34 AM »
Where would I find nice clean apt.? And how about food would any of the hotels give if not staying there? Or any takeouts thru the summer?

Have the same question. Any ideas how to find apartment and kosher options in Switzerland?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2342 on: July 11, 2021, 04:16:16 PM »
any one know if the kosher program in Maloja, is open this year? contact infomation?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2343 on: July 11, 2021, 04:32:55 PM »
any one know if the kosher program in Maloja, is open this year? contact infomation?
Kempinski Hotel? I saw it advertised.


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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2345 on: July 12, 2021, 02:01:17 AM »
any one know if the kosher program in Maloja, is open this year? contact infomation?

Saw a photo this week of him with the Viznitz Rebbe in St. Moritz, I guess it's in his hotel.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2346 on: July 12, 2021, 02:35:26 AM »
No Maloja is not opened this year
vitnitz is in a private hotel in st moritz
keminsky is a fortune of money

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2347 on: July 12, 2021, 08:01:15 AM »
Anyone know if there is a minyan this year in Saas Fee, or other mountain villages?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2348 on: July 22, 2021, 06:23:32 PM »
Is there a cheaper way to buy train tickets then just online?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2349 on: July 25, 2021, 04:34:15 AM »
Any nice place to stay for 1 night next week in Zurich near shul and food?

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« Reply #2350 on: July 26, 2021, 12:18:53 AM »
Anyone know if there is a minyan this year in Saas Fee
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2351 on: July 26, 2021, 12:34:34 AM »
Any nice place to stay for 1 night next week in Zurich near shul and food?
Was thinking to do the same, but checked the weather forecast for Davos and Arosa. Gonna rain straight through the next week and a half.
Hope they don't get the flooding that's going on everywhere else around the world. Would be pretty scary getting stuck in a cave/hotel on some mountain...

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2352 on: July 26, 2021, 10:32:09 AM »
Was thinking to do the same, but checked the weather forecast for Davos and Arosa. Gonna rain straight through the next week and a half.
Hope they don't get the flooding that's going on everywhere else around the world. Would be pretty scary getting stuck in a cave/hotel on some mountain...
They made some upgrades after a big storm in 2005 so hopefully not. Usually in Davos it only rains for part of the day and then the sun comes out. Usually, July is no rain and August is rainy.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2353 on: July 27, 2021, 09:41:59 AM »
We are landing in Zurich at 5:15pm from a connection in Europe (Lisbon). Our airbnb host in the mountains said we have to be there by 21:40 otherwise she cannot check us in.
There are my options



Is it reasonable to try and make these? Traveling with two big bags and a baby.

We will have  a Swiss pass. Is the process getting tickets quick? I assume I go to the sales desk in the airport.

Thanks!

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2354 on: July 27, 2021, 12:56:23 PM »
We are landing in Zurich at 5:15pm from a connection in Europe (Lisbon). Our airbnb host in the mountains said we have to be there by 21:40 otherwise she cannot check us in.
There are my options



Is it reasonable to try and make these? Traveling with two big bags and a baby.

We will have  a Swiss pass. Is the process getting tickets quick? I assume I go to the sales desk in the airport.

Thanks!
You can buy tickets online and just walk onto the train.
When I landed in ZRH 2 weeks ago there were only 2-3 people ahead of me in line.

You should make the 18:08 comfortably, but obviously if the flight is delayed you will end up having to spend the night somewhere else or persuading the AirBnb agent to be more flexibke
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2355 on: July 27, 2021, 01:27:56 PM »
Thanks. Even with a Swiss pass I can book tickets ahead?
And do you recommend the Swiss pass?
I think we are going to spend the night in Lucerne to see the area and avoid the added rush. Will make it to the mountains at a reasonable hour the next day when we decide to head over.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2356 on: July 27, 2021, 02:49:31 PM »
Have the same question. Any ideas how to find apartment and kosher options in Switzerland?
Where would I find nice clean apt.? And how about food would any of the hotels give if not staying there? Or any takeouts thru the summer?
eta? would they allow it?

i know Kaminski has a 5 night min stay for kosher program, i only want shabbos (3 nights) would they let us come for meals and pay? regardless of where we choose to stay



Also, is there still an option to check bags throught to St Moritz when landing in ZRH and taking the train?
How about on the return?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2357 on: July 28, 2021, 11:53:21 AM »
eta? would they allow it?

i know Kaminski has a 5 night min stay for kosher program, i only want shabbos (3 nights) would they let us come for meals and pay? regardless of where we choose to stay



Also, is there still an option to check bags throught to St Moritz when landing in ZRH and taking the train?
How about on the return?

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« Reply #2358 on: July 28, 2021, 11:59:20 AM »
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« Reply #2359 on: July 28, 2021, 12:11:07 PM »
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