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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
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Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #380 on: July 02, 2012, 09:08:16 AM »
Radisson make a lot more sense, its in the terminal builidng very cute hotel.

But we want to go into town anyways and I dont have any Radisson points or status.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #381 on: July 02, 2012, 09:08:31 AM »
If you want to stay in zrh go in town, then to the lake, and take a boatride to Rapperwil, which is a children zoo, and quite cute.

Can you point me to boatride info? Sounds good. Is it close to PH? How much is a cab to PH from ZRH? Not sure if we can manage on a train witht he 2 kids and all the carry ons (we dont travel light)

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #382 on: July 02, 2012, 09:10:26 AM »
But we want to go into town anyways and I dont have any Radisson points or status.
sleep first, then go into town. Why do u need status for a 1 hour nap???
Its 50k points. Many people should have, or u can get them urself by staying one night in any radisson
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #383 on: July 02, 2012, 09:17:06 AM »
sleep first, then go into town. Why do u need status for a 1 hour nap???
Its 50k points. Many people should have, or u can get them urself by staying one night in any radisson

Not looking to spend any money on a room

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #384 on: July 02, 2012, 09:19:16 AM »
Sell a hyatt night for $250. Check into a radisson for <$150, use the 50k points to stay in the radisson.

Take the $100 and buy yourself a treat.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #385 on: July 02, 2012, 09:25:16 AM »
Didn't know you could sell them. Good idea. Is there a shuttle to the radission? And how do we get from there into town (or Lucerene)?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #386 on: July 02, 2012, 09:27:29 AM »
It is in the same building as the terminal, you'll see plenty of signs.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #387 on: July 02, 2012, 12:34:56 PM »
Does PH offer Kosher breakfast or a credit for diamonds?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #388 on: July 02, 2012, 12:35:32 PM »
Does PH offer Kosher breakfast or a credit for diamonds?
Yes
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #389 on: July 02, 2012, 12:38:59 PM »
I was given 5k points in lieu of kosher breakfast.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #390 on: July 02, 2012, 12:39:40 PM »
Yes

Which one? Credit or Breakfast. If they have breakfast that would be another reason to choose the PH.

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Re: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #391 on: July 02, 2012, 01:03:07 PM »
I was given 5k points in lieu of kosher breakfast.
+1, although in think I got 3k
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #392 on: July 02, 2012, 01:12:00 PM »
+1, although in think I got 3k

Seems pretty small compared to the $75 credit other people got elsewhere

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #393 on: July 02, 2012, 10:41:31 PM »
Does PH offer Kosher breakfast or a credit for diamonds?
Yes I just got back from the PH ( full trip report coming soon IY'H) it was airline food buisness/ first class, from Schalom caterers. They also gave a nice bottle of kosher champagne, and lots of cholov yisroel chocolate.
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« Reply #394 on: July 02, 2012, 10:46:07 PM »
Yes I just got back from the PH ( full trip report coming soon IY'H) it was airline food buisness/ first class, from Schalom caterers.
Meh, happy I got 5K then!
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #395 on: July 02, 2012, 10:51:52 PM »
Meh, happy I got 5K then!
You dont think you could eat 5K worth of choc? ;)

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #396 on: July 02, 2012, 10:53:32 PM »
Yes I just got back from the PH ( full trip report coming soon IY'H) it was airline food buisness/ first class, from Schalom caterers. They also gave a nice bottle of kosher champagne, and lots of cholov yisroel chocolate.
Lol...that edit changes things sir!
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #397 on: July 02, 2012, 11:04:19 PM »
Sorry, my wife reminded me of them when she saw the post. Well not THAT much chocolate just 2 torino boxes each day.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #398 on: July 02, 2012, 11:30:19 PM »
Sorry, my wife reminded me of them when she saw the post. Well not THAT much chocolate just 2 torino boxes each day.
Thats quite a bit for 2 people...

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #399 on: July 03, 2012, 12:52:05 AM »
Yes I just got back from the PH ( full trip report coming soon IY'H) it was airline food buisness/ first class, from Schalom caterers. They also gave a nice bottle of kosher champagne, and lots of cholov yisroel chocolate.

Were you a Diamond when you stayed at the PH? Will the PH do anything for Platinums?