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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
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Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #440 on: November 01, 2012, 03:33:51 PM »
Thanks
Around the three hour mark.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #441 on: November 01, 2012, 04:16:58 PM »
i'm looking for a nice area of the alps where i'll have a minyan nearby for shabbos.  i see there's a kosher hotel (and i assume minyan) in villars sur ollon  and the one in italy.    is there anything near chamonix?   any other parts of the alps (austria)?    this is for the winter.   
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #442 on: November 04, 2012, 05:06:41 PM »
Anyone has an idea where I could rent a cellphone in the Holy Land for use in Switzerland? with decent rates?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #443 on: November 04, 2012, 05:30:09 PM »
Anyone has an idea where I could rent a cellphone in the Holy Land for use in Switzerland? with decent rates?
buy there its very cheap

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #444 on: November 04, 2012, 06:24:55 PM »
Anyone has an idea where I could rent a cellphone in the Holy Land for use in Switzerland? with decent rates?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #445 on: November 19, 2012, 11:11:00 AM »
I'm going to be in Zurich for a 5 hour stopover  8am till 1 PM, I have a BIL that lives in Zurich, anyone has any idea how long it takes to get from when you get off the plane to get to Zurich, and what are the differant ways to do it. (if 5 hours is at all enough).

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #446 on: November 19, 2012, 12:10:03 PM »
I'm going to be in Zurich for a 5 hour stopover  8am till 1 PM, I have a BIL that lives in Zurich, anyone has any idea how long it takes to get from when you get off the plane to get to Zurich, and what are the differant ways to do it. (if 5 hours is at all enough).

Probably around 30-35 minutes from the door of the plane to Bahnoff Strausse. The train is 10 minutes and runs at least every ten minutes. Leaves from inside the terminal. Just walk down to the lake 15-min each way and it will be well worth the effort.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #447 on: November 19, 2012, 12:21:54 PM »
Probably around 30-35 minutes from the door of the plane to Bahnoff Strausse. The train is 10 minutes and runs at least every ten minutes. Leaves from inside the terminal. Just walk down to the lake 15-min each way and it will be well worth the effort.
Whats Bahnoff Strausse, is that near IRG.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #448 on: November 19, 2012, 12:23:05 PM »
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #449 on: November 19, 2012, 12:24:17 PM »
Whats Bahnoff Strausse, is that near IRG.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #451 on: November 19, 2012, 03:41:03 PM »
Anyone has an idea where I could rent a cellphone in the Holy Land for use in Switzerland? with decent rates?
When I was there there were 2 very cheap international pre-paid SIMs. One was called Lebara and the other I don't remember.

http://www.lebara.ch/?isoCode=en_GB

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #453 on: December 05, 2012, 12:34:28 PM »
I'll admit I did not read this thread-

Any suggestions or advice on what to do during a 5 hour layover is Zurich from 7:55AM to 12:45PM Tomorrow? Is that enough time to take a train into the city and get some breakfast or see any sites?
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Re: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #454 on: December 05, 2012, 12:35:44 PM »
I'll admit I did not read this thread-

Any suggestions or advice on what to do during a 5 hour layover is Zurich from 7:55AM to 12:45PM Tomorrow? Is that enough time to take a train into the city and get some breakfast or see any sites?
Yeah, take train to end. You're two blocks from the water, just walk around, beautiful area
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #455 on: December 05, 2012, 12:36:03 PM »
I'll admit I did not read this thread-

Any suggestions or advice on what to do during a 5 hour layover is Zurich from 7:55AM to 12:45PM Tomorrow? Is that enough time to take a train into the city and get some breakfast or see any sites?
Yes. Forget breakfast. Take train from inside terminal to Zurich Central Station. It takes <10 min.

From station, exit onto Bahnoff Strausse and walk down to the lake. Sing a song and turn around.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #456 on: December 05, 2012, 12:56:23 PM »
Yeah, take train to end. You're two blocks from the water, just walk around, beautiful area
Thanks!
Yes. Forget breakfast. Take train from inside terminal to Zurich Central Station. It takes <10 min.

From station, exit onto Bahnoff Strausse and walk down to the lake. Sing a song and turn around.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #457 on: December 10, 2012, 12:43:49 PM »
1 is a week to much to be in Switzerland?

  2 where is the best place to be for shabes

  3 where should I visit and where should I stay

  4 what the best way to get around?
 
  I am planning to fly from NYC in a few weeks so thanks for your great help   


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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #458 on: December 10, 2012, 12:45:44 PM »
Did you pick Switzerland out of a hat? Why would you want to go there if you have no clue what you would do?
What do you like to do-that may people advise you.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #459 on: December 10, 2012, 11:01:28 PM »
i like places with nice views