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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
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Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #460 on: December 10, 2012, 11:13:27 PM »
Do you like to hike or relax in the presence of those nice views?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #461 on: December 12, 2012, 05:11:33 PM »
Yes. Forget breakfast. Take train from inside terminal to Zurich Central Station. It takes <10 min.

From station, exit onto Bahnoff Strausse and walk down to the lake. Sing a song and turn around.
Thanks again! The lake was beautiful! When I got back to the airport I found out the delight was delayed 3 hours :( could have went to Lucerne. Oh well.
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Re: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #462 on: December 12, 2012, 06:03:37 PM »
Thanks again! The lake was beautiful! When I got back to the airport I found out the delight was delayed 3 hours :( could have went to Lucerne. Oh well.

What did you sing?

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« Reply #463 on: December 12, 2012, 06:15:49 PM »
What did you sing?
funny you should ask. We made a tune to this
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« Reply #464 on: December 12, 2012, 06:16:51 PM »
funny you should ask. We made a tune to this

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Re: Re: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #465 on: December 12, 2012, 07:07:15 PM »
funny you should ask. We made a tune to this

"We"?

Also... who wrote that?

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« Reply #466 on: December 12, 2012, 07:16:09 PM »
"We"?

Also... who wrote that?
I came with friends...

Idk who wrote that it was at the dock and I knew I had to sing a song so I picked that one.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #467 on: December 12, 2012, 07:43:23 PM »
I came with friends...

Idk who wrote that it was at the dock and I knew I had to sing a song so I picked that one.

Aha. I see.

What tune did you use? An existing one, or you made one up? ;)

ETA: found the lyrics: http://www.lyricsreg.com/lyrics/bastille/Bad+Blood/

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #468 on: January 07, 2013, 02:14:41 PM »
going to be in Switzerland form 02/03 till 02/07 .

where is the best place to eat and which yiddish hotel will be open this time of year ?

i am planing to stay in arose or st mortiz as per  dans deals forums

any help with other stuff would be appreciate thanks .

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #469 on: January 08, 2013, 04:01:02 PM »
Thinking of sending a family member and his wife to Switzerland just for one night (2 days) from Israel.
Would Vienna be a better choice?

What could they do there now in the winter for the day?

I'm just looking for somewhere they can have a nice time, see some pretty scenery and have  a good meal or two.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #470 on: January 08, 2013, 05:44:26 PM »
going to be in Switzerland form 02/03 till 02/07 .

where is the best place to eat and which yiddish hotel will be open this time of year ?

i am planing to stay in arose or st mortiz as per  dans deals forums

any help with other stuff would be appreciate thanks .

Best place to eat... where? In Zurich?

As for hotel... the Metropol in Arosa is decent. A bit old (like my wife says, "it's like honeymooning in Bubby's house"), but the food is good, and the heimishe atmosphere is wonderful. A bit expensive, though - the prices you see on their site are per person, not per room.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #471 on: January 09, 2013, 01:21:28 PM »
Has any one been in st mortiz if yes where did u stay and is it hard to get around if you dont have a car ?

and which hotel is near the yiddish hotel in arose if i wont to stay somware elso ?

and how much about will cost me all the train rides and i get somone who live there to buy be a card  will it be much cheper ?

thanks

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #473 on: January 09, 2013, 03:50:09 PM »
Has any one been in st mortiz if yes where did u stay and is it hard to get around if you dont have a car ?

I've been several times. Nobody brings a car there. Easy to get around with trains.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #474 on: January 10, 2013, 03:29:34 PM »
Thinking of sending a family member and his wife to Switzerland just for one night (2 days) from Israel.
Would Vienna be a better choice?

What could they do there now in the winter for the day?

I'm just looking for somewhere they can have a nice time, see some pretty scenery and have  a good meal or two.
Both Vienna and Zurich are between half an hour to an hour from the Alps.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #475 on: January 13, 2013, 09:58:11 AM »
and which hotel is near the yiddish hotel in arose if i wont to stay somware elso ?

Word to the wise: don't count on finding some cheap hotel nearby and going to the Metropol just for the food, as they will charge a bloody fortune for a food-only package, and you won't save any money. The only people who do that are the really, REALLY wealthy folks who can afford to stay in the Tschuggen Grand Hotel (or similar) for a king's ransom, PLUS pay for taxis multiple times per day to and from the Metropol and like $100 per person, per meal.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #476 on: January 13, 2013, 10:02:19 AM »
Has any one been in st mortiz if yes where did u stay and is it hard to get around if you dont have a car ?

and which hotel is near the yiddish hotel in arose if i wont to stay somware elso ?

and how much about will cost me all the train rides and i get somone who live there to buy be a card  will it be much cheper ?

thanks
when I was in st moritz I rented an apartment that came with a ski pass, I got it on the official st moritz site, and called the hotel to bargain. As PG said, there's absolutely no need for a car. And we took the bus daily to the edelweiss to daven, Didn't eat or stay there.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #477 on: January 13, 2013, 07:31:25 PM »
Hi,
I need to buy a Bar Mitzvah present for someone living in Zurich, can someone PM me of the Seforim stores in Zurich (I'm assuming there are seforim stores there) and their phone #.
Thanks

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« Reply #478 on: January 13, 2013, 07:36:40 PM »
Hi,
I need to buy a Bar Mitzvah present for someone living in Zurich, can someone PM me of the Seforim stores in Zurich (I'm assuming there are seforim stores there) and their phone #.
Thanks

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #479 on: January 13, 2013, 08:22:56 PM »
when I was in st moritz I rented an apartment that came with a ski pass, I got it on the official st moritz site, and called the hotel to bargain. As PG said, there's absolutely no need for a car. And we took the bus daily to the edelweiss to daven, Didn't eat or stay there.
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