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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
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Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #640 on: March 27, 2014, 07:10:05 PM »
ICN over SIN?
I like ICN better but SIN is up there. Lounges are definitely better at SIN. Also ICN has bar none the best airport shopping.

as far as traveling a lot to israel, i thing is the best option, just landed 2 hours ago.
For Israel ZRH is definitely the best.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #641 on: March 27, 2014, 07:12:15 PM »
Also ICN has bar none the best airport shopping.
I was very impressed with SIN shopping, how is ICN better? SIN is really an incredible airport.
Also duty-free in SIN was much better priced than ICN, there were actually some deals to be had.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #642 on: March 27, 2014, 07:14:30 PM »
Only duty free LV in the world

Many designer shops which often have excellent sales.

Cheap alcohol, IIRC JWBL is $180 there.

Sin is only good for Apple products.

You have to walk a lot and it has a loud feeling, ICN feels better.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #643 on: April 27, 2014, 10:50:43 PM »
Sorry for not reading through the whole thread, but can someone just direct me as to what's to be done on a 14hr ZRH stopover?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #644 on: April 28, 2014, 12:17:21 AM »
Sorry for not reading through the whole thread, but can someone just direct me as to what's to be done on a 14hr stopover?
Titlis or Pilatus.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #646 on: May 01, 2014, 07:49:14 PM »

Titlis or Pilatus.

I did pilatus during my weekend there. It was a very good trip and would do it again anytime
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #647 on: May 01, 2014, 08:09:05 PM »
I did pilatus during my weekend there. It was a very good trip and would do it again anytime

You doing pilates?

Video to prove it?

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It's a nice trip

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #648 on: May 02, 2014, 01:37:00 AM »
I did pilatus during my weekend there. It was a very good trip and would do it again anytime
Did you take a tour or do it on your own, and why?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #649 on: May 02, 2014, 04:38:13 AM »

Did you take a tour or do it on your own, and why?

I was in Zurich Friday to Monday and when to Luzerne on Sunday on my own. Was a great trip
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« Reply #650 on: May 02, 2014, 07:31:27 AM »
Didn't get to do anything as they were all closed just walked around

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« Reply #651 on: May 02, 2014, 08:35:22 AM »
I was in Zurich Friday to Monday and when to Luzerne on Sunday on my own. Was a great trip
That's exactly when we'll be there. How'd you get to Lucerne? Train or bus? What about from Lucerne to the base of Mt Pilatus?

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« Reply #652 on: May 02, 2014, 08:55:05 AM »

That's exactly when we'll be there. How'd you get to Lucerne? Train or bus? What about from Lucerne to the base of Mt Pilatus?

Train to luzerne. Bus to pilatus
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« Reply #653 on: May 02, 2014, 09:29:32 AM »
Train to luzerne. Bus to pilatus
Why not the river cruise?
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« Reply #654 on: May 02, 2014, 09:38:28 AM »

Why not the river cruise?

Wasnt in the mood i guess. Next time
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« Reply #655 on: May 02, 2014, 10:08:23 AM »
Thanks.
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« Reply #656 on: May 02, 2014, 10:22:20 AM »
Why not the river cruise?
How did you like the cruise? Is it a better than just taking the train?

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« Reply #657 on: May 02, 2014, 11:09:24 AM »
How did you like the cruise? Is it a better than just taking the train?
It was very pretty and relaxing. We sat on the boat, enjoyed the scenery. Ate lunch. Wife read a book. I learned a little.
We paid extra to sit up top. Not sure it was necessary, but there were plenty of tables and space.
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« Reply #658 on: May 02, 2014, 12:34:29 PM »
It was very pretty and relaxing. We sat on the boat, enjoyed the scenery. Ate lunch. Wife read a book. I learned a little.
We paid extra to sit up top. Not sure it was necessary, but there were plenty of tables and space.
Plenty of space on the bottom also, very scenic.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #659 on: May 02, 2014, 12:37:13 PM »
It was very pretty and relaxing. We sat on the boat, enjoyed the scenery. Ate lunch. Wife read a book. I learned a little.
We paid extra to sit up top. Not sure it was necessary, but there were plenty of tables and space.
Maybe I'm missing something, but taking the river cruise or train and getting to the top of Mt Pilatus is more expensive when done on your own that with a 9.5 hour tour for $169/person. Do you just not like tours?