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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
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Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #660 on: May 02, 2014, 05:28:05 PM »
From Zurich? We rented a car (convertible from Hertz, very fun). Never considered anything else. Don't remember it being more expensive than that. Wouldn't consider a tour anyways. Like to do my own thing
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #661 on: May 02, 2014, 06:01:53 PM »
From Zurich? We rented a car (convertible from Hertz, very fun). Never considered anything else. Don't remember it being more expensive than that. Wouldn't consider a tour anyways. Like to do my own thing
I'm confused. You did the river cruise and rented a car?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #662 on: May 02, 2014, 06:10:12 PM »
I'm confused. You did the river cruise and rented a car?
Yup. Drove to Lucerne. Parked. Did the golden round trip or whatever it's called. Boat->cogwheel train->ski lift->bus
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« Reply #663 on: May 02, 2014, 06:44:10 PM »
Got it. Thanks for your help

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #664 on: May 02, 2014, 06:49:29 PM »
Loved going on the train and streetcars. Major props to Chuchem for hooking us up with the all day transport pass.
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« Reply #665 on: May 02, 2014, 07:08:03 PM »
Loved going on the train and streetcars. Major props to Chuchem for hooking us up with the all day transport pass.
Which one did you get?  The  Zurichcard?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #666 on: May 02, 2014, 07:14:51 PM »
Which one did you get?  The  Zurichcard?
Not that you should do this but technically you can ride any train or tram for free I was never asked to show a ticket which I had. But then again Murphy's law might show up if you actually don't have a ticket.
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« Reply #667 on: May 02, 2014, 07:17:21 PM »
Not that you should do this but technically you can ride any train or tram for free I was never asked to show a ticket which I had. But then again Murphy's law might show up if you actually don't have a ticket.
The LA metro system is also on the honor system, but if you get caught its a $2500 fine and up to six months in jail. Not quite worth it in my book.

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« Reply #668 on: May 03, 2014, 01:32:25 PM »
Not that you should do this but technically you can ride any train or tram for free I was never asked to show a ticket which I had. But then again Murphy's law might show up if you actually don't have a ticket.
I got asked

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« Reply #669 on: May 05, 2014, 02:13:30 PM »
Has anyone gone on the Free Walking Tour of Zurich? Trip adviser says it's pretty good, just wondering if anyone has first hand experience.

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« Reply #670 on: May 09, 2014, 05:14:15 PM »
I've just spent way too long quickly reading through the whole thread.  Besides the PH, what are other hotels near IRG or other shuls for shabbos?

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« Reply #671 on: May 09, 2014, 05:20:43 PM »
I've just spent way too long quickly reading through the whole thread.  Besides the PH, what are other hotels near IRG or other shuls for shabbos?

If I recall correctly, you have the Four Points.
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« Reply #672 on: May 09, 2014, 05:21:09 PM »
Which one did you get?  The  Zurichcard?
Dunno, maybe try PMing chuchem?
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« Reply #673 on: May 09, 2014, 05:24:15 PM »
If I recall correctly, you have the Four Points.
I saw that. Didn't know how close it was to anything besides Chabad.

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« Reply #674 on: May 09, 2014, 05:24:36 PM »
Dunno, maybe try PMing chuchem?
Just did that, but if he's home he won't see it till tomorrow night.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #675 on: May 12, 2014, 01:09:09 PM »
Does anyone have any experience with good hotels in the grindenwald, wengen, murren, area (south of interlaken by the eiger and jangfruch). All the hotels were pretty low in stars and high in price.

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« Reply #676 on: May 12, 2014, 02:07:22 PM »
Palace in Wengen is not bad... Wengen is IMO the nicest of those

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #677 on: May 12, 2014, 02:09:29 PM »
Grindenwald is St Moritz...
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #678 on: May 12, 2014, 02:14:42 PM »

Grindenwald is St Moritz...
I meant grindelwald. Right to the east of wengen.

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« Reply #679 on: May 12, 2014, 02:37:50 PM »
I meant grindelwald. Right to the east of wengen.
It's on the other side of the mountain used to be kosher hotel there..