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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #700 on: May 27, 2014, 09:14:31 AM »
Are there regular minyanim there by late june early july?


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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #701 on: May 27, 2014, 09:29:19 AM »
Is there any restaurant too or only groceries?
No

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #702 on: May 27, 2014, 09:29:46 AM »
Are there regular minyanim there by late june early july?
Usually there are.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #703 on: May 27, 2014, 09:30:41 AM »
Usually there are.
thanks how far is it from zurich airport by train?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #704 on: May 27, 2014, 09:32:10 AM »
thanks how far is it from zurich airport by train?
About 2.5 hr

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #706 on: May 28, 2014, 05:44:51 PM »
I've just spent way too long quickly reading through the whole thread.  Besides the PH, what are other hotels near IRG or other shuls for shabbos?

There is the Sheraton Neues Schloss, just across from the PH basically.

Also, the IRG and Chabad are really only a 10-15 minute walk from each other, so even if you were to stay at 4P the IRG is easily walkable, and vice versa with the other hotels to Chabad.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #707 on: May 28, 2014, 05:46:39 PM »
There is the Sheraton Neues Schloss, just across from the PH basically.

Also, the IRG and Chabad are really only a 10-15 minute walk from each other, so even if you were to stay at 4P the IRG is easily walkable, and vice versa with the other hotels to Chabad.
Thanks. The 4P is a lot cheaper. I'll probably end up there.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #708 on: May 28, 2014, 05:49:05 PM »
I'm staying at the Sheraton. Simply based on the points I had avail. Haven't gotten to planning this city yet, but hope it's near something!

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #709 on: May 28, 2014, 05:55:49 PM »
I'm staying at the Sheraton. Simply based on the points I had avail. Haven't gotten to planning this city yet, but hope it's near something!
Which Sherton? Zurich Sheraton or Zurich Sheraton Neues?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #710 on: May 28, 2014, 05:59:00 PM »
Which Sherton? Zurich Sheraton or Zurich Sheraton Neues?
Zurich stam.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #711 on: May 28, 2014, 06:05:05 PM »
Zurich stam.
Why not 4p? You're not going to be there for shabbos? I'm even thinking of just paying for rooms at the 4P because for my dates it's only CHF 123/night. At that rate it's not worth spending 16k points or even 6k+$110. Only thing is it's a prepaid rate so no cancellations. That's the only reason I haven't done it yet. What do you think?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #712 on: May 28, 2014, 06:21:39 PM »
Why not 4p? You're not going to be there for shabbos? I'm even thinking of just paying for rooms at the 4P because for my dates it's only CHF 123/night. At that rate it's not worth spending 16k points or even 6k+$110. Only thing is it's a prepaid rate so no cancellations. That's the only reason I haven't done it yet. What do you think?
Pretty close to the airport and I only have 23 hr 55 min in ZRH, so I think that will be convenient. Not a Shabbos stay. Also, at this point you should know I'm trying to get every night for free :P

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #713 on: May 28, 2014, 06:25:22 PM »
Pretty close to the airport and I only have 23 hr 55 min in ZRH, so I think that will be convenient. Not a Shabbos stay. Also, at this point you should know I'm trying to get every night for free :P
I know you're aiming for all free nights. I was just saying that I might pay for the room. You probably got the longest >24 layover. I though my 22:50 layover in London was good, but you beat me.  :P

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #714 on: May 28, 2014, 06:31:51 PM »
I know you're aiming for all free nights. I was just saying that I might pay for the room. You probably got the longest >24 layover. I though my 22:50 layover in London was good, but you beat me.  :P
I'm very proud of it.  8)

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #715 on: May 29, 2014, 01:01:44 AM »
Pretty close to the airport and I only have 23 hr 55 min in ZRH, so I think that will be convenient. Not a Shabbos stay. Also, at this point you should know I'm trying to get every night for free :P
Far from city center

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #716 on: May 29, 2014, 08:11:18 AM »
Far from city center
What can ya do? Had exactly 16K SPG left. In every city, you either stay by the airport and taxi/metro to town, or you stay in town and then taxi/metro to the airport. When you're going for several days, it's easier to be in town, but if it's just 1 day then it doesn't really matter.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #717 on: June 02, 2014, 11:45:14 PM »
Ok just browsed through the first ~300 posts and then the posts from 2014.

It's clear that for a 1 day stop, you go to Lucerne. Kinda surprised by how many times Dan chimed in with the same response to people about the options besides for going up Pilatus. Anyway, I can't believe it's so expensive, so I'm not convinced I want to do it yet.

Is there a cheaper way to get a nice view of the alps, perhaps even from the ground?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #718 on: June 03, 2014, 01:30:30 AM »
Ok just browsed through the first ~300 posts and then the posts from 2014.

It's clear that for a 1 day stop, you go to Lucerne. Kinda surprised by how many times Dan chimed in with the same response to people about the options besides for going up Pilatus. Anyway, I can't believe it's so expensive, so I'm not convinced I want to do it yet.

Is there a cheaper way to get a nice view of the alps, perhaps even from the ground?
I've done a few same day stopovers in Zurich and during those times I visited Titlis, Pilatus, Rigi and Flumsberg. The cheapest was Flumsburg and for a good reason. I'm not sure how interesting it's in the summer as I was there in the winter and it was just nice. Definitely Titlis is the nicest IMO of those but Pilatus and Rigi are very nice as well specially in the summer.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #719 on: June 03, 2014, 07:26:28 AM »
I've done a few same day stopovers in Zurich and during those times I visited Titlis, Pilatus, Rigi and Flumsberg. The cheapest was Flumsburg and for a good reason. I'm not sure how interesting it's in the summer as I was there in the winter and it was just nice. Definitely Titlis is the nicest IMO of those but Pilatus and Rigi are very nice as well specially in the summer.
Thanks. So it seems like you don't think it's worth doing the cheaper option.

Any idea where to get Shacharis midweek? I'll be at the Sheraton Zurich, so I know I'll have to tram into town.