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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
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Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #720 on: June 03, 2014, 08:11:41 AM »
Quote from: @Yehuda on June 03, 2014, 07:26:28 AM
Thanks. So it seems like you don't think it's worth doing the cheaper option.

Any idea where to get Shacharis midweek? I'll be at the Sheraton Zurich, so I know I'll have to tram into town.
Correct.
Enge, that's the Jewish area in Zurich. It's a stop or two from Zurich HB and you'll find there kosher food as well.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #721 on: June 03, 2014, 08:18:02 AM »
Quote from: Feivish on June 03, 2014, 08:11:41 AM
Correct.
Enge, that's the Jewish area in Zurich. It's a stop or two from Zurich HB and you'll find there kosher food as well.
Great. Do you know which line to take?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #722 on: June 03, 2014, 08:41:28 AM »
Quote from: @Yehuda on June 03, 2014, 08:18:02 AM
Great. Do you know which line to take?
According to Google Maps there are a few tram lines that go through Enge.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #723 on: June 03, 2014, 08:55:06 AM »
Quote from: Yehoshua on June 03, 2014, 08:41:28 AM
According to Google Maps there are a few tram lines that go through Enge.
Do you know where you're davening/eating?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #724 on: June 03, 2014, 09:31:35 AM »
Quote from: @Yehuda on June 03, 2014, 08:55:06 AM
Do you know where you're davening/eating?
We're staying with friends of friends. Not quite sure about davening yet, though I imagine IRG .
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #725 on: June 10, 2014, 04:46:49 PM »
I've been trying to figure out the best and the cheapest ways to get to Enge (station) from the Zurich airport).  The options seem kind of confusing. This is what I've come up with so far for adults traveling during the day (no special reductions or nighttime add ons). Prices in CHF obviously.

A 3-zone single ticket is 6.60 valid for 1 hour.
A 3-zone 24 hour pass is 13.20, but we wouldn't be going back to the airport withing 24 hours. We plan on just walking around town, so my guess is a 24 hour pass is not worth it.

For short trips within Zurich (like from Enge to Sihlquai HB) it looks like it's only 2.60 valid for half an hour.

Even if I would travel on two short trips and one airport (3-zone) trip within 24 hours it would only be 11.80, still making the 24 hour pass not worth it.

Questions
Am I missing something or does my math make sense?
Would I need to take more trams/trains to get around town? Everything looks walkable from Enge.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #726 on: June 10, 2014, 04:49:32 PM »
Zurich is walkable if weather is nice. It's a small city and end to end is about 1.5 hours. Enge to Banhoff Strasse is 15 minute
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #727 on: June 10, 2014, 05:01:22 PM »
Quote from: PlatinumGuy on June 10, 2014, 04:49:32 PM
Zurich is walkable if weather is nice. It's a small city and end to end is about 1.5 hours. Enge to Banhoff Strasse is 15 minute
Do you know much about the tains to/from the airport?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #728 on: June 10, 2014, 05:10:11 PM »
Quote from: Yehoshua on June 10, 2014, 05:01:22 PM
Do you know much about the tains to/from the airport?
I do. It's as easy as easy gets... everything runs perfectly on time and is really well marked. From the airport you take a free tram to the train station and from there you can purchase your train ticket to wherever you need to go.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #729 on: June 10, 2014, 05:16:49 PM »
Quote from: MC on June 10, 2014, 05:10:11 PM
I do. It's as easy as easy gets... everything runs perfectly on time and is really well marked. From the airport you take a free tram to the train station and from there you can purchase your train ticket to wherever you need to go.
I was there myself 14 years ago, and I remember being able to take the train straight from the airport. Are you referring to the S-Bahn (local train) that leaves from a station near but not in the airport?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #730 on: June 10, 2014, 05:28:10 PM »
Quote from: Yehoshua on June 10, 2014, 05:16:49 PM
I was there myself 14 years ago, and I remember being able to take the train straight from the airport. Are you referring to the S-Bahn (local train) that leaves from a station near but not in the airport?
I don't think so. Unless that's the same as the SBB. I've been there within the past five years twice. Once I went to Zurich - that time I took a train straight from the airport (which is located a little outside the center of the city) into the main station in town. From there I took a bus to get around.
The other time I went to Basel and again I took a train straight from the airport.
BUT the train station in the airport is "underground" under a terminal... I don't remember which one. So from where you land and collect your luggage, you will probably have to take a tram to the station. It's all within the airport and it's all very clearly marked... these are the Swiss after all ;)

ETA: "Bahn" means train in both German and Swiss-German. As long as you know that you will have no problem getting to where you need to go.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #731 on: June 10, 2014, 05:30:30 PM »
Quote from: MC on June 10, 2014, 05:28:10 PM
I don't think so. Unless that's the same as the SBB. I've been there within the past five years twice. Once I went to Zurich - that time I took a train straight from the airport (which is located a little outside the center of the city) into the main station in town. From there I took a bus to get around.
The other time I went to Basel and again I took a train straight from the airport.
BUT the train station in the airport is "underground" under a terminal... I don't remember which one. So from where you land and collect your luggage, you will probably have to take a tram to the station. It's all within the airport and it's all very clearly marked... these are the Swiss after all ;)

ETA: "Bahn" means train in both German and Swiss-German. As long as you know that you will have no problem getting to where you need to go.
Thanks! I took the underground one last I was there. I'm glad to know it's still working. I'm aware of Bahn. I'm learning German in preparation for the trip.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #732 on: June 10, 2014, 05:36:05 PM »
Quote from: Yehoshua on June 10, 2014, 05:30:30 PM
Thanks! I took the underground one last I was there. I'm glad to know it's still working. I'm aware of Bahn. I'm learning German in preparation for the trip.
WOW good luck!
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #733 on: June 10, 2014, 05:40:07 PM »
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #734 on: June 10, 2014, 05:42:10 PM »
Quote from: Yehoshua on June 10, 2014, 05:40:07 PM
Danke!
Bitte :)
You do know that while all the Swiss understand German, they actually speak their own dialect of Swiss-Deutsch which will thoroughly confuse you, right?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #735 on: June 10, 2014, 05:48:03 PM »
Quote from: MC on June 10, 2014, 05:42:10 PM
Bitte :)
You do know that while all the Swiss understand German, they actually speak their own dialect of Swiss-Deutsch which will thoroughly confuse you, right?
Yup, but between knowing how to get by in German and people knowing English I figured that I'll get by. Rosetta Stone doesn't have a Swiss German language, just plain old German. From what I read, many news reports, radio, and TV news are in German (regular), so I might just sound like a reporter.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #736 on: June 10, 2014, 05:51:30 PM »
You don't need to take a tram to get to the train. It's right inside the terminal. Runs every 10 minutes or so. Perhaps the most accessible airport in the world in that aspect.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #737 on: June 10, 2014, 05:52:37 PM »
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You don't need to take a tram to get to the train. It's right inside the terminal. Runs every 10 minutes or so. Perhaps the most accessible airport in the world in that aspect.
Do they still have the luggage carts that can go on the escalators?
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« Reply #738 on: June 10, 2014, 05:56:18 PM »
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You don't need to take a tram to get to the train. It's right inside the terminal. Runs every 10 minutes or so. Perhaps the most accessible airport in the world in that aspect.
So then I'm mistaking it with whatever you would call the 'tram' that took me from terminal to terminal...
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #739 on: June 10, 2014, 06:15:20 PM »
Take the train from under the airport to Zurich HB. There you will be at the top (or bottom) of Banhofstrasse. You can either walk along the street until you arrive at the lake or you can hop on a tram to get to pretty much anywhere in the city.
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