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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #780 on: August 25, 2014, 01:16:04 PM »
Tnx to alll of u!! I checked it up and these roads are free!!!

Also be careful not to speed in CH.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #781 on: September 14, 2014, 07:53:36 PM »
I have a 9 hour stopover in ZRH I was thinking of doing Mount Pilatus but i'm afraid it will be a bit tight.
Any other ideas what to do during the layover?
Is it worth going to Lucerne without going up Mt. Pilatus?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #782 on: September 14, 2014, 07:59:06 PM »
I have a 9 hour stopover in ZRH I was thinking of doing Mount Pilatus but i'm afraid it will be a bit tight.
Any other ideas what to do during the layover?
Is it worth going to Lucerne without going up Mt. Pilatus?
If it's a Sunday most stores are closed everywhere, so Pilatus or Rigi would be nice. I thought Lucerne was nice, but couldn't imagine going there without going up a mountain.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #783 on: September 14, 2014, 08:21:55 PM »
If it's a Sunday most stores are closed everywhere, so Pilatus or Rigi would be nice. I thought Lucerne was nice, but couldn't imagine going there without going up a mountain.
Its a Monday
Is the city of Lucerne nicer and more scenic then Zurich?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #784 on: September 14, 2014, 08:22:21 PM »
Its a Monday
Is the city of Lucerne nicer and more scenic then Zurich?
Yes

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #785 on: September 14, 2014, 08:24:17 PM »
Its a Monday
Is the city of Lucerne nicer and more scenic then Zurich?
It's more scenic and there's a beautiful lake, but if you're worried about time and proximity to the airport, Zurich has plenty to see (and there's a lake there too!)

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #786 on: September 14, 2014, 08:25:35 PM »
But is it worth going from the airport to the train station to Lucerne to walk around for a few hours (can you even just walk around for that much time?) just to come back? Going into Zurich and getting some food at a restaurant might be a better use of your time.

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« Reply #787 on: September 14, 2014, 08:26:51 PM »
It's more scenic and there's a beautiful lake, but if you're worried about time and proximity to the airport, Zurich has plenty to see (and there's a lake there too!)
But 9 hr. should make it?
How long before the flight do I need to arrive in ZRH airport if I'm traveling swiss business and my luggage are already checked in?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #788 on: September 14, 2014, 08:28:55 PM »
But is it worth going from the airport to the train station to Lucerne to walk around for a few hours (can you even just walk around for that much time?) just to come back? Going into Zurich and getting some food at a restaurant might be a better use of your time.
Food in a restaurant I could get at home too, when I'm going there I would like to see as much possible.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #789 on: September 14, 2014, 08:29:34 PM »
Nine hours should be plenty to go up the mountain
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #790 on: September 14, 2014, 08:33:41 PM »
Walking on the bridges, old city walls, and of course the boat ride in Lucerne is priceless.

Was a shame it was such a cloudy day, but was well worthwhile even without pilatus.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #791 on: September 14, 2014, 08:36:02 PM »
Nine hours should be plenty to go up the mountain
Traveling time itself up to the mountain is about 5 1/2 hr. round trip

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #792 on: September 14, 2014, 08:40:33 PM »
Food in a restaurant I could get at home too, when I'm going there I would like to see as much possible.
Yes, but it's not a huge stopover. I dk, I'm too stressed on a stopover to go out and do such a big activity. Did it take me less than 9 hours to go up Rigi, probably yes. But I had a 24 hour stopover, so I didn't feel pressed for time at all. Obviously you can get food anywhere, but I just think of "short" stopovers as food runs/doing things locally in the city.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #793 on: September 14, 2014, 08:45:28 PM »
Traveling time itself up to the mountain is about 5 1/2 hr. round trip

Says who? Traveling time with the pilatus cable car is 15 minutes maximum.

9 hours is A LOT. Go for it...

The train is an hour each way. 3 hours at Pilatus is more than enough. Walk around the city, take a boat or ship ride And head back to the airport. I would say 75 minutes before the flight is perfectly fine to arrive at the airport.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #794 on: September 14, 2014, 08:47:19 PM »
Says who? Traveling time with the pilatus cable car is 15 minutes maximum.
The cable car is closed now until mid November only the cogwheel is open.
I could take the cable car until Fräkmüntegg, is it worth it?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #795 on: September 14, 2014, 09:21:28 PM »
No. In that case just stay in Zurich
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #796 on: September 14, 2014, 10:57:36 PM »
Or do Rigi with a combination of boat, cable car and mountain train.

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« Reply #797 on: September 15, 2014, 10:44:56 PM »
Or do Rigi with a combination of boat, cable car and mountain train.
I'm thinking of doing Mt. Rigi, its 3 hr. outbound through lucerne and boat ride on the lake and just 2 hr. return by train.
What would be the cheapest option is there any daily pass for this?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #798 on: September 15, 2014, 10:55:03 PM »
I'm thinking of doing Mt. Rigi, its 3 hr. outbound through lucerne and boat ride on the lake and just 2 hr. return by train.
What would be the cheapest option is there any daily pass for this?
I don't remember prices but one option is to go to the My Switzerland office that is right behind the ticket counter at the airport train station, they can do the whole ticketing as one ticket at a discounted price.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #799 on: September 29, 2014, 06:58:49 AM »
Is there any kosher food near bahnhofstrasse?