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Re: BGR will be relaunched with new benefits
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2018, 01:45:14 PM »
Did you forget that I drive a tractor trailer?

So now you *do* drive a tractor trailor?
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Re: BGR will be relaunched with new benefits
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2018, 01:52:51 PM »
Isn't that at the pump?

Think so.

Propel combined with WF Visa can give 5.25% CB towards travel with $0 AF.
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Re: BGR will be relaunched with new benefits
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2018, 01:55:49 PM »
You're *paying* for those 600K MR. That's the whole point I'm making. You're no better off with this card until $150K, which just so happens to be the cap, which means you can NEVER do better with this card, regardless of you earning 600K MR or not.

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What's your MS expense ratio?

I'd think that <1.14% is highly attainable if you don't live in an MS desert.

At that fee structure, you're looking at costs of $1,710 for MS  + $295 for the annual fee.

How is $2,005 for 600k MR yawn worthy?
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Re: BGR will be relaunched with new benefits
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2018, 01:58:52 PM »
Think so.

Propel combined with WF Visa can give 5.25% CB towards travel with $0 AF.
I understand what other cards can do. Was just pointing out you can't MS the PF 5x card. This is a worthy card to add. It isn't a binary decision.
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Re: BGR will be relaunched with new benefits
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2018, 02:00:51 PM »
What's your MS expense ratio?

I'd think that <1.14% is highly attainable if you don't live in an MS desert.

At that fee structure, you're looking at costs of $1,710 for MS  + $295 for the annual fee.

How is $2,005 for 600k MR yawn worthy?

You're missing the point. The "expense ratio" is the same regardless.  We're arguing about which of two houses on the same block to buy, and you're saying, "but what about the weather?"

The point is that it's all relative.

Someone coming out and offering 6x on airfare for $1000 AF is only exciting if you look at the first number and completely disregard the second.  Currently can get 5X for $0 AF, so offering 4X for $295 is yawn-worthy.
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Re: BGR will be relaunched with new benefits
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2018, 02:02:48 PM »


Currently can get 5X for $0 AF,

Only good for tractor trailer operators...
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2018, 02:03:55 PM »

Only good for tractor trailer operators...

Incorrect.
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Re: BGR will be relaunched with new benefits
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2018, 02:06:31 PM »
The one thing you're not taking into account is whether it's worth getting another card from a different bank just for gas. Getting a BGR is not a big deal if you already have amex cards.
Either way, I don't think amex did anything special here, kinda worthless really.
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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2018, 02:08:31 PM »
To be clear, I'm not saying this is a card to ignore, necessarily. I'm simply saying it's not as exciting as some people are making it out to be.

4x for $295 < 5x $295 < 5x $0.
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Re: BGR will be relaunched with new benefits
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2018, 02:10:55 PM »
The issue is will this card be used for normal purchases or for MS?
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« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2018, 02:13:46 PM »
Well, we've I've conclusively established that this card is useless if NOT MS'ing.

Unless, of course, for the umpteenth time, you drive a TT, like some of us apparently do.
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Re: BGR will be relaunched with new benefits
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2018, 02:17:23 PM »



Well, we've I've conclusively established that this card is useless if NOT MS'ing.

Unless, of course, for the umpteenth time, you drive a TT, like some of us apparently do.

Sounds like you're arguing against it even for TT/MS'ers


4x for $295 < 5x $295 < 5x $0.

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Re: BGR will be relaunched with new benefits
« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2018, 02:17:27 PM »
Well, we've I've conclusively established that this card is useless if NOT MS'ing.

Unless, of course, for the umpteenth time, you drive a TT, like some of us apparently do.
To be clear, I'm not saying this is a card to ignore, necessarily. I'm simply saying it's not as exciting as some people are making it out to be.

4x for $295 < 5x $295 < 5x $0.
So which card that is good for MS and gives 5X on gas?

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Re: BGR will be relaunched with new benefits
« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2018, 02:20:14 PM »


Sounds like you're arguing against it even for TT/MS'ers

Glad you're paying attention at home.
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Re: BGR will be relaunched with new benefits
« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2018, 02:20:55 PM »
So which card that is good for MS and gives 5X on gas?
Currently available? I don't think any.
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