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Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« on: November 08, 2018, 06:09:10 PM »
Hello All,
I recently got a Ring doorbell but realized today that even if I turn off the motion alerts, the device will still record motion and will turn on when someone approaches it.  The only way I can find to turn off the motion detection is by turning off all the zones for motion detection in the "motion zones" section of the app.  Does anyone know of any easier ways to turn off motion detection that would allow me to put it on a schedule rather than having to remember to turn it off every shabbos?  TIA

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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2018, 06:10:45 PM »
Install a smart relay that will shut the power to the doorbell?

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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2018, 06:19:21 PM »
Install a smart relay that will shut the power to the doorbell?
Ok, thank you.  How do I go about doing that?  What should I buy?

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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2018, 07:38:30 PM »
Hello All,
I recently got a Ring doorbell but realized today that even if I turn off the motion alerts, the device will still record motion and will turn on when someone approaches it.  The only way I can find to turn off the motion detection is by turning off all the zones for motion detection in the "motion zones" section of the app.  Does anyone know of any easier ways to turn off motion detection that would allow me to put it on a schedule rather than having to remember to turn it off every shabbos?  TIA
I came to the same conclusion.
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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2018, 08:09:30 PM »
Why not bring the discussion over here? https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=93100.0

It is "tech talk" no?

I have the same question:

Ok, thank you.  How do I go about doing that?  What should I buy?
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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2018, 08:35:22 PM »
I have a Shabbos shunt switch for my Ring Pro and my alarm system.
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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2018, 08:36:51 PM »
I have a Shabbos shunt switch for my Ring Pro and my alarm system.

A bit more detail please  :D What's a shunt switch?
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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2018, 08:37:47 PM »
A bit more detail please  :D What's a shunt switch?
Basically a button that kills power to the device. Wouldn't work if you're battery powered.
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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2018, 08:40:16 PM »
Basically a button that kills power to the device. Wouldn't work if you're battery powered.

Oh. I'm on battery  :-\
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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2018, 12:06:12 AM »
If you don't have recordings stored it shouldn't be an issue.

If you have recordings saved, it is Kosev. Now the question is, when you, your wife and kids walk up, it is a pesik reisha. Question is, is it nicha lei for the recordings of you and your family. It's likely that the intent in recording is for guests, intruders, strangers where you get a ring alerting you that they approach and then a recording of the incident. These thoughts may be relevant in determining if this is no worse than a motion activated light which I believe you are allowed to pass.

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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2018, 12:18:15 AM »
If you don't have recordings stored it shouldn't be an issue.

If you have recordings saved, it is Kosev. Now the question is, when you, your wife and kids walk up, it is a pesik reisha. Question is, is it nicha lei for the recordings of you and your family. It's likely that the intent in recording is for guests, intruders, strangers where you get a ring alerting you that they approach and then a recording of the incident. These thoughts may be relevant in determining if this is no worse than a motion activated light which I believe you are allowed to pass.

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Its Kosev?

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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2018, 12:21:12 AM »
Its Kosev?
Its a debate among todays poskim from what I understand.

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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2018, 12:52:49 AM »
no worse than a motion activated light which I believe you are allowed to pass.
Don't think that's simple.
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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2018, 09:25:29 AM »
If you don't have recordings stored it shouldn't be an issue.
It still marks down the activity in the history log. Does that not matter?
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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2018, 01:42:21 PM »
Oh. I'm on battery  :-\

... uh... pull out one of the batteries before shabbos, and you should be good :)