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Before you post, here are some quick notes about the ring (Updated August 2019), that have been discussed in this forum:

- More important that anything else - AYLOR before you buy as YMMV
- There are two types of Ring Doorbells - those that are battery powered (Doorbell/Doorbell 2/View Cam), and those that are hardwired (Pro/Pro Elite)
- Disabling the Wifi works to prevent recordings, and disabling motion zones won't alert you, but most people still think that ring will still be triggered on by motion
- There are many tools with modern Wi-fi routers - Circle, Google Wi-fi, etc that enable you to cut off your rings Wi-Fi on a schedule or manually
- If you have a hard-wired Ring, you can add a switch to the circuit to completely turn it off before Shabbos
- Some people have a manual switch, others have added a programmable relay.
- Other people cover the doorbell

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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2018, 05:41:48 AM »
Hello All,
I recently got a Ring doorbell but realized today that even if I turn off the motion alerts, the device will still record motion and will turn on when someone approaches it.  The only way I can find to turn off the motion detection is by turning off all the zones for motion detection in the "motion zones" section of the app.  Does anyone know of any easier ways to turn off motion detection that would allow me to put it on a schedule rather than having to remember to turn it off every shabbos?  TIA
I picked one up not long ago, but ever since I took it out of the box I never ended up wiring it to the existing bell due to my intercom which I would lose, unless there's a way to connect my intercom to the bell as well on the Ring2 or newer models.
 Kept my camera on the counters and set the motion detection off, but to my surprise I still saw all the activity, so been twisting the camera backwards facing the wall now and back around after shabbos.
 Good thing I didn't install it yet.
 Is there anyone here who had an intercom which was connected to the bell and was lost after using the ring doorbell? Or you guys just wired up a 2nd bell and bought the chime, while leaving the existing doorbell with the intercom?   
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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2018, 01:18:24 PM »
Not a wiring expert, but I can imagine you can wire up the bell in parallel with your intercom, the caveats would be:

- If someone presses the ring button, you'd get notified through the app and not the intercom.
- If someone presses the intercom button, you'd be able to speak with them through the intercom and ring would probably capture them with motion sensing.

I assume your intercom is one with a pushbutton for opening the door, or else, you could simply use ring to figure out who was outside

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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2018, 10:35:38 AM »
You can just turn off all of the motion detection zones before Shabbos and it won't detect any motion. Problem solved.

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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2018, 12:40:13 PM »
You can just turn off all of the motion detection zones before Shabbos and it won't detect any motion. Problem solved.
Yes that was mentioned but OP was looking for a better option that can be scheduled.
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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2018, 12:54:35 PM »
Yes that was mentioned but OP was looking for a better option that can be scheduled.
Look into creating a scheduled task with ITTT (If This Then That) or a similar program.
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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2019, 05:43:02 AM »
Just a heads up for anyone buying the ring system. The contact sensors for doors and windows can't be turned off once enabled unless you open and remove the batteries. Even if you disconnect them from the system, so they don't trigger the alarm or chime, they still flash a light every time the door or window is opened.
If anyone figured out an easier way around removing the battery, please share.

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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2019, 10:32:21 AM »
Just a heads up for anyone buying the ring system. The contact sensors for doors and windows can't be turned off once enabled unless you open and remove the batteries. Even if you disconnect them from the system, so they don't trigger the alarm or chime, they still flash a light every time the door or window is opened.
If anyone figured out an easier way around removing the battery, please share.

that is precisely what this thread has concluded several times.
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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2019, 01:19:21 AM »
that is precisely what this thread has concluded several times.
Curios if he read the thread or found a thread which has the same question he was about to ask and asked?
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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2019, 04:23:21 AM »
that is precisely what this thread has concluded several times.

No, that thread is talking about the doorbell/ cameras. I'm talking about the contact sensors.

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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2019, 01:47:41 PM »
Yes that was mentioned but OP was looking for a better option that can be scheduled.
I have Google WiFi routers so I thought scheduling the Doorbell for no access with Family WiFi would be the perfect hands-off scheduled solution... It does work beautifully to stop all recording automatically, however, I noticed that on the Ring 2, there are IR (night-vision) lights that still seem to go on automatically... Anyone know any way around that?

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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #40 on: April 03, 2019, 09:11:01 AM »
I have Google WiFi routers so I thought scheduling the Doorbell for no access with Family WiFi would be the perfect hands-off scheduled solution... It does work beautifully to stop all recording automatically, however, I noticed that on the Ring 2, there are IR (night-vision) lights that still seem to go on automatically... Anyone know any way around that?
Even though lack of wi-fi prevents the camera from recording, it's likely still running.

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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #41 on: April 03, 2019, 09:13:41 AM »
Even though lack of wi-fi prevents the camera from recording, it's likely still running.
Running in what sense? I don't believe it has any recording capabilities internally, it's only cloud based. So if no WiFi it's not recording and motion has no effect (aside from the IR lights I asked about).

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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #42 on: April 03, 2019, 11:11:04 AM »
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Running in what sense? I don't believe it has any recording capabilities internally, it's only cloud based. So if no WiFi it's not recording and motion has no effect (aside from the IR lights I asked about).

It's the equivalent of having a camera on with no tape or memory card. The camera turns on when someone walks by and captures their movement and image - it just has nowhere to save it - you are also effectively turning on the same switch that turns on the IR lights.

As Dan points out above, if you have the 'pro' version, there is a way to install a bypass switch for shabbos.

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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #43 on: April 03, 2019, 11:22:58 AM »
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It's the equivalent of having a camera on with no tape or memory card. The camera turns on when someone walks by and captures their movement and image - it just has nowhere to save it - you are also effectively turning on the same switch that turns on the IR lights.

As Dan points out above, if you have the 'pro' version, there is a way to install a bypass switch for shabbos.


Wow - didn't think it worked that way, but even if it did work that, I don't believe that would be problematic on shabbos. With alarm sensor lights, the only problem (from my understanding) is that you are actually triggering on a light (albeit one that you don't care about or even see in many cases) But with the Ring 2 on battery (I don't have wires so can't use Pro) during the day when there is no IR - there is absolutely nothing visual or audible that is happening when it is not connected to the internet...

Based on your response, I asked my LOR if it is problematic if it does indeed record, even temporarily, without anyway to retrieve and with no audio/visual indication it is doing so... Will update with his answer...
Still need to resolve the IR issue regardless (I think... should probably just ask about that too)

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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #44 on: April 03, 2019, 01:01:28 PM »
Wow - didn't think it worked that way, but even if it did work that, I don't believe that would be problematic on shabbos. With alarm sensor lights, the only problem (from my understanding) is that you are actually triggering on a light (albeit one that you don't care about or even see in many cases) But with the Ring 2 on battery (I don't have wires so can't use Pro) during the day when there is no IR - there is absolutely nothing visual or audible that is happening when it is not connected to the internet...

Based on your response, I asked my LOR if it is problematic if it does indeed record, even temporarily, without anyway to retrieve and with no audio/visual indication it is doing so... Will update with his answer...
Still need to resolve the IR issue regardless (I think... should probably just ask about that too)


Random thought #1 - you could just pull out the battery before shabbos. It might be a hassle, but it's 30 seconds of your week.

Random thought #2 - IMHO, the two biggest problems with all of the 'connected' devices in our homes and shabbos are:
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  • We don't truly know what they are doing in the background. For example, I imagine that some recorders will record without internet, and then upload to the cloud when ready. (Based on Ring's website, I have no reason to believe that they currently do this).
  • Any feature that's disabled via Software can be re-enabled with a reset or changed with an update - if your device has a true - turn me off mode - like the nest and amazon cams do - can you really rely on it? If your power goes out for a brief period on shabbos will the camera reset and come on when the power is restored? Or, the company can tweak the software so that even though it says its not recording, it might still be secretly doing it