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Before you post, here are some quick notes about the ring (Updated August 2019), that have been discussed in this forum:

- More important that anything else - AYLOR before you buy as YMMV
- There are two types of Ring Doorbells - those that are battery powered (Doorbell/Doorbell 2/View Cam), and those that are hardwired (Pro/Pro Elite)
- Disabling the Wifi works to prevent recordings, and disabling motion zones won't alert you, but most people still think that ring will still be triggered on by motion
- There are many tools with modern Wi-fi routers - Circle, Google Wi-fi, etc that enable you to cut off your rings Wi-Fi on a schedule or manually
- If you have a hard-wired Ring, you can add a switch to the circuit to completely turn it off before Shabbos
- Some people have a manual switch, others have added a programmable relay.
- Other people cover the doorbell

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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #45 on: April 03, 2019, 01:11:07 PM »
Random thought #1 - you could just pull out the battery before shabbos. It might be a hassle, but it's 30 seconds of your week.

Random thought #2 - IMHO, the two biggest problems with all of the 'connected' devices in our homes and shabbos are:
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  • We don't truly know what they are doing in the background. For example, I imagine that some recorders will record without internet, and then upload to the cloud when ready. (Based on Ring's website, I have no reason to believe that they currently do this).
  • Any feature that's disabled via Software can be re-enabled with a reset or changed with an update - if your device has a true - turn me off mode - like the nest and amazon cams do - can you really rely on it? If your power goes out for a brief period on shabbos will the camera reset and come on when the power is restored? Or, the company can tweak the software so that even though it says its not recording, it might still be secretly doing it




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Thought 1 - Yes, of course that's an option, but its a pain in the neck and we were trying to find an automated solution.

Thought 2 - Background - I've been chatting with a Ring Support Tech about the IR lights, he confirmed that "device has no memory in and of itself" so no wifi, no recording at all.
In regards to it being re-enabled or reset, by doing the scheduled pause from the Router it wouldn't matter; if the router resets, theres no wifi, and if it resets more than that, the Ring would likely need to be re-paired altogether

Thank you for the ideas though!

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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #46 on: April 03, 2019, 03:03:38 PM »
Hello All,
I recently got a Ring doorbell but realized today that even if I turn off the motion alerts, the device will still record motion and will turn on when someone approaches it.  The only way I can find to turn off the motion detection is by turning off all the zones for motion detection in the "motion zones" section of the app.  Does anyone know of any easier ways to turn off motion detection that would allow me to put it on a schedule rather than having to remember to turn it off every shabbos?  TIA
IMO the motion detection is still the best option (better than pulling out the battery and having to deal with the tiny screw every week).
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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #47 on: April 03, 2019, 03:06:58 PM »
IMO the motion detection is still the best option (better than pulling out the battery and having to deal with the tiny screw every week).

Have you checked if that also stops the IR lights from going on and off?

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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #48 on: April 03, 2019, 03:08:32 PM »
IMO the motion detection is still the best option (better than pulling out the battery and having to deal with the tiny screw every week).

Does it lose the settings each time you turn it off? Like the zone is set at place X, does it lose that marker each time you turn it off? If yes, I'd say that was more annoying then removing the battery
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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #49 on: April 03, 2019, 03:09:19 PM »
IMO the motion detection is still the best option (better than pulling out the battery and having to deal with the tiny screw every week).
Best option is having a physical kill switch.
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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #50 on: April 03, 2019, 03:09:26 PM »
Have you checked if that also stops the IR lights from going on and off?

Yes it does stop them, if it's not set to detect any motion at all there is no need for the IR.
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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #51 on: April 03, 2019, 03:10:20 PM »
Best option is having a physical kill switch.

As well as driving a tesla, some people - like me - just can't afford it
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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #52 on: April 03, 2019, 03:11:28 PM »
As well as driving a tesla, some people - like me - just can't afford it
I'm quite surprised nobody is doing it in NYC for an affordable price.
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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #53 on: April 03, 2019, 03:12:20 PM »
Best option is having a physical kill switch.

Yes, if only mine wasn't on Battery power

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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #54 on: April 03, 2019, 03:16:18 PM »
Yes, if only mine wasn't on Battery power
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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #55 on: April 03, 2019, 03:17:03 PM »
Have you checked if that also stops the IR lights from going on and off?
Yup, I do it for every shabbos. The annoying thing is that I also forget to turn the motion back on until like Tuesday lol.
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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #56 on: April 03, 2019, 03:19:56 PM »
Yup, I do it for every shabbos. The annoying thing is that I also forget to turn the motion back on until like Tuesday lol.

Does it lose the settings each time you turn it off? Like the zone is set at place X, does it lose that marker each time you turn it off? If yes, I'd say that was more annoying then removing the battery

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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #57 on: April 03, 2019, 03:21:48 PM »
Does it lose the settings each time you turn it off? Like the zone is set at place X, does it lose that marker each time you turn it off? If yes, I'd say that was more annoying then removing the battery
Yes, you have to remove the zone totally and reset after shabbos. I guess if you are very sensitive about your zones then it may be a bigger issue. Not for me.
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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #58 on: April 03, 2019, 03:22:13 PM »
Yup, I do it for every shabbos. The annoying thing is that I also forget to turn the motion back on until like Tuesday lol.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm trying to avoid... Ring said there is a way for them to turn of the IR but it would be permanent... If I did that, together with the WiFi on scheduled off for Shabbos, I should be on autopilot (except for YT)... Just not sure I want to lose my IR - My porch is well lit, so could be I don't need it too much..

(My LOR said IF there is anything that completely behind the scenes gets triggered it wouldn't be a problem)

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Re: Disabling Ring doorbell for shabbos
« Reply #59 on: April 03, 2019, 03:23:29 PM »
Yes, you have to remove the zone totally and reset after shabbos. I guess if you are very sensitive about your zones then it may be a bigger issue. Not for me.

On my app - there is an on/off toggle for each part of the zone - but the zone itself stays in place, so there wouldn't be any resetting of the zones