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Re: El al flight arriving close to Shabbos - again
« Reply #400 on: November 25, 2018, 12:00:05 PM »
The right would have a field day with it. Also I haven't seen one piece on this in the MSM (cable news).
Right, it's not big news outside of Israel, where the split between religious and non religious is sadly poisonous.

This story was on Drudge and look at the comments on all the air travel blogs that posted the story. They are cesspools of anti semitism clothed in virtuous enlightenment.

The same would apply to Muslims, but I feel the reports themselves wouldn't have the "crazy religious people" spin that this story has, especially among liberal outlets.
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Re: El al flight arriving close to Shabbos - again
« Reply #401 on: November 25, 2018, 12:03:45 PM »
You might want to add a warning don't click on the pictures/stories on the left side of the page to change browser setting so that no pictures are loaded prior to opening anything on Walla.co.il.
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Re: El al flight arriving close to Shabbos - again
« Reply #402 on: November 25, 2018, 12:07:25 PM »
Right, it's not big news outside of Israel, where the split between religious and non religious is sadly poisonous.

This story was on Drudge and look at the comments on all the air travel blogs that posted the story. They are cesspools of anti semitism clothed in virtuous enlightenment.

The same would apply to Muslims, but I feel the reports themselves wouldn't have the "crazy religious people" spin that this story has, especially among liberal outlets.
Blogs are cesspools of all types of comments. That's why I hardly ever read the comments except for a good laugh.
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Re: El al flight arriving close to Shabbos - again
« Reply #403 on: November 25, 2018, 12:07:47 PM »
Well F will soon no longer be an option on LY either
From my understanding not so quick. I've heard people have been pushing Elal to keep the 747 in service for longer.

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Re: El al flight arriving close to Shabbos - again
« Reply #404 on: November 25, 2018, 12:14:28 PM »
Blogs are cesspools of all types of comments. That's why I hardly ever read the comments except for a good laugh.
True, but take the Loyalty Lobby post - the post itself called religious Jews crazy! Not the comments, the blog post. They have not addressed that. Then, my comment which didn't denigrate anyone but merely stated facts was "under moderation" for 2 days. A blatantly anti Semitic comment was (and is still) visible from the second it was posted.

Do you honestly believe they would every comment "crazy religious Muslims" or "crazy African Americans"?
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Re: El al flight arriving close to Shabbos - again
« Reply #405 on: November 25, 2018, 12:15:05 PM »
Not sure under what to file this one:

https://www.globes.co.il/news/article.aspx?did=1001262058&fid=821

This morning Israeli news media was saying that if ELAL doesn't publicly apologize, elite members of it's Matmid club would come to their offices at LLBG to publicly cut up their Matmid memberhship cards. Story sounded ridiculous to me, as I would assume that elite members have better things to do with their time.

Seems like something actually did take place, and a grand total of ONE elite member publicly cut up his Matmid card.
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Re: El al flight arriving close to Shabbos - again
« Reply #406 on: November 25, 2018, 12:16:59 PM »
Not sure under what to file this one:

https://www.globes.co.il/news/article.aspx?did=1001262058&fid=821

This morning Israeli news media was saying that if ELAL doesn't publicly apologize, elite members of it's Matmid club would come to their offices at LLBG to publicly cut up their Matmid memberhship cards. Story sounded ridiculous to me, as I would assume that elite members have better things to do with their time.

Seems like something actually did take place, and a grand total of ONE elite member publicly cut up his Matmid card.
And apparently it wasn't even his membership card but a luggage tag.

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Re: El al flight arriving close to Shabbos - again
« Reply #407 on: November 25, 2018, 12:19:13 PM »
True, but take the Loyalty Lobby post - the post itself called religious Jews crazy! Not the comments, the blog post. They have not addressed that. Then, my comment which didn't denigrate anyone but merely stated facts was "under moderation" for 2 days. A blatantly anti Semitic comment was (and is still) visible from the second it was posted.

Do you honestly believe they would every comment "crazy religious Muslims" or "crazy African Americans"?
Who is "Loyalty Lobby"? Never heard of them. Some of the big travel blogs that I did hear of were fair with their stories. Some did have to be shown the light.
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Re: El al flight arriving close to Shabbos - again
« Reply #408 on: November 25, 2018, 12:30:37 PM »
Who is "Loyalty Lobby"? Never heard of them. Some of the big travel blogs that I did hear of were fair with their stories. Some did have to be shown the light.
Their post was linked in this thread, you said "educate them". We tried, didn't help.
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Re: El al flight arriving close to Shabbos - again
« Reply #409 on: November 25, 2018, 12:32:09 PM »
Who is "Loyalty Lobby"? Never heard of them. Some of the big travel blogs that I did hear of were fair with their stories. Some did have to be shown the light.
They all maintained there is a side to the story that Hareidim were violent.
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Re: El al flight arriving close to Shabbos - again
« Reply #410 on: November 25, 2018, 12:33:05 PM »
Their post was linked in this thread, you said "educate them". We tried, didn't help.
Sure it helped. I didn't check but I thought someone said he removed the word "crazy", no?
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Re: El al flight arriving close to Shabbos - again
« Reply #411 on: November 25, 2018, 12:34:47 PM »
Sure it helped. I didn't check but I thought someone said he removed the word "crazy", no?
Sure did. No apology. No note that it was removed. And the rest of the story is *still* horribly wrong.
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Re: El al flight arriving close to Shabbos - again
« Reply #413 on: November 25, 2018, 12:37:07 PM »
True, but take the Loyalty Lobby post - the post itself called religious Jews crazy! Not the comments, the blog post. They have not addressed that. Then, my comment which didn't denigrate anyone but merely stated facts was "under moderation" for 2 days. A blatantly anti Semitic comment was (and is still) visible from the second it was posted.

Do you honestly believe they would every comment "crazy religious Muslims" or "crazy African Americans"?
Call them out here:
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Re: El al flight arriving close to Shabbos - again
« Reply #414 on: November 25, 2018, 12:37:50 PM »
Sure did. No apology. No note that it was removed. And the rest of the story is *still* horribly wrong.
That's why I said educate him. Many of the problems is pure ignorance.
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Re: El al flight arriving close to Shabbos - again
« Reply #415 on: November 25, 2018, 12:43:58 PM »
How about Muslims?

I know you don't like when I post Hebrew articles (it's about time that you start learning Hebrew and Yiddish, so we can have more fun), but you should at least try reading with the aid of Google translate: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.maariv.co.il%2Fjournalists%2FArticle-672203&edit-text=
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Re: El al flight arriving close to Shabbos - again
« Reply #416 on: November 25, 2018, 12:54:01 PM »
I know you don't like when I post Hebrew articles (it's about time that you start learning Hebrew and Yiddish, so we can have more fun), but you should at least try reading with the aid of Google translate: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.maariv.co.il%2Fjournalists%2FArticle-672203&edit-text=
The problem is they translate words wrong all the time. Getting one word wrong changes the context of what they are saying. It would just get me in more trouble.
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Re: El al flight arriving close to Shabbos - again
« Reply #417 on: November 25, 2018, 12:57:31 PM »
The problem is they translate words wrong all the time. Getting one word wrong changes the context of what they are saying. It would just get me in more trouble.

They've gotten a lot better. There are more bad English examples (which you would spot and might actually provide an alternative translation without having read or understood the original, just by using your human logic) than actual wrong word translations.

They are definitely at the forefront of AI when it comes to human language.
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Re: El al flight arriving close to Shabbos - again
« Reply #418 on: November 25, 2018, 12:57:54 PM »
Was there not an instance where El Al blamed a delay on religious men for not sitting next to women when it turned out the delay was actually El Al's fault?
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Re: El al flight arriving close to Shabbos - again
« Reply #419 on: November 25, 2018, 01:00:27 PM »
I am guessing that this is another one of their fake news items: https://travel.walla.co.il/item/3202798

While it would be very welcome to seem SQ flying to TLV, I doubt that it's happening yet. They wouldn't do anything that might anger the Malaysians.

I don't think SQ is coming to TLV anytime soon, the rumor has been many times in the past. Many of SQ's staff are Malaysians and in their passport they have this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian_passport#Israel - plus Malaysia won't allow SQ to overfly their airspace for TLV flights so guess how that will look like