El al flight arriving close to Shabbos - again

[Yehuda57]

What's the reason so many fly ElAl?

There are numerou$ rea$on$ one would ¢hoo$e a $pecifi¢ air£ine, but the mo$t important fa¢tor con$idered by pa$$enger$ i$ pric€

[ChaimMoskowitz]

1) It "feels" Jewish/Israeli, they speak Hebrew etc.
2) People think they have better security.
3) They have the most direct flights
4) A lot of times they're the cheapest.

Makes sense.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

There are numerou$ rea$on$ one would ¢hoo$e a $pecifi¢ air£ine, but the mo$t important fa¢tor con$idered by pa$$enger$ i$ pric€

What are you trying to say? 

[mileagejunkie]

FWD:

EL-AL SPONSORED SHABBOS OF UNITY

What a nice post!

[Ergel]

Pilot lying to the passengers is just unacceptable. Actually ridiculous. Full stop.

One thing to note, going back to the gate at 11:45 means the plane doesn't take off at all

[Ergel]

@Dan you really wouldn't recommend the AC Thursday flight? What's the worst that could happen? If the flight is delayed >2 hours, you don't board. If it's less than that, even if you're stuck on the runway for three hours, you make it no problem.
Plus AC is not an operational mess like LY

[PlatinumGuy]

In any event, do you think that if all Rabinical organizations would issue a ruling saying that it is forbidden to fly (transatlantic only?) on ELAL flights scheduled to land on Friday (or Erev Yomtov), it might make those flights uneconomical for ELAL?

And you think if Elal isn't mechalel shabbos, the employees will do less chilul shabbos at home?

Nobody claims Elal isn't Mechalel shabbos. Some consider it nice that they are respectful of shabbos enough not to blatantly fly on it.

[davidrotts63]

There are numerou$ rea$on$ one would ¢hoo$e a $pecifi¢ air£ine, but the mo$t important fa¢tor con$idered by pa$$enger$ i$ pric€

For the first half I was certain you were going to say service. I guess you're unpredictable.

[ExGingi]

It took 90 minutes until we finally hit the first drivel comment that I won't bother publishing. Not bad considering the post content.

I would have allowed it and published a response that includes a recording of an authentic Yemenite pronunciation.

[ExGingi]

https://www.globes.co.il/news/article.aspx?did=1001260983

I don't think he's right and that this flight will make it happen, though I really wish ELAL finally feels the real pain as a result of customer abuse.

[Yaalili]

https://onemileatatime.com/el-al-flight-shabbat-violence/

[ExGingi]

For some reason I get this a lot. Maybe I should read up on how Menachem Begin got the vote to pass to better understand?

Sorry I don't have time to translate for you. But since the State of Israel is officially governed by a parliamentary system, it leads to the forming of coalitions, with various commitments to the participating parties.

Here's the agreement regarding ELAL not flying on Shabbos: https://main.knesset.gov.il/mk/government/documents/cagreement19.pdf

[jose34]

FWD:

EL-AL SPONSORED SHABBOS OF UNITY

This Shabbos I had the tremendous privilege to be a part of something amazing, beautiful and enlightening. I am hoping El Al will see this and understand that there is a much better headline than the false headline “Haredim Riot On Plane” which I currently see online.   
.....
Walking into Kabbalas Shabbos (I was late) was beautiful. The room was full of 60 or 70 men and about 10 women and everyone was singing.  Rabbi ......
After Kabbalas Shabbos we walked through the hotel to the dining area and I can tell you with 100% conviction that what I saw was beyond anything I could have imagined.
.....
The Seudah was beautiful and everyone sang zemiros and niggunim and there were many Divrei Torah....
Shacharis was another beautiful davening and it was interesting to see how it was a mix of Nusach Sefard, Sefardi, Ashkenaz.
......
First I would like to thank the following people.
Rabbi Shalom Ber Sorotzkin who had the foresight before the plane took off to have his organization contact El-Al and Chabad and put pressure on to make this Shabbos happen.
Rabbi and Rebbetzin Hendel, the Chabad Rabbi and Rebbetzin based in Athens, Greece.  They got the call at 11am Friday morning and by 4pm that same afternoon they had prepared a beautiful  Shabbos for 150+ adults which was not lacing in anyway.
My 150+ new friends and passengers who gave me an experience and Shabbos I will never forget.

With much love
Ben Chafetz

Thank you for writing such  a wonderful piece.
In my opinion this is the only piece that needs to be written about the wonderful unity that exists and the wanting of everyone to keep Shabbos plus how Rabbi and Rebbetzin Hendel put together such a beautiful shabbos.

[Abey]

https://onemileatatime.com/el-al-flight-shabbat-violence/

As someone once commented on his blog “don’t expect decent reporting from a youngster flying around first class his whole day״

[Dan]

@Dan you really wouldn't recommend the AC Thursday flight? What's the worst that could happen? If the flight is delayed >2 hours, you don't board. If it's less than that, even if you're stuck on the runway for three hours, you make it no problem.
Plus AC is not an operational mess like LY

Not in the winter.

My calculus has changed after being stuck on the plane to my Zayde's 90th.

Even after allowing for a 2 hour delay and 3.5 hours on the runway like El Al, you can still be forced to fly.

The margin of error has to be 8+ hours I think, unless there are extenuating circumstances.

[Dan]

https://onemileatatime.com/el-al-flight-shabbat-violence/

He fell for the anti charedi scam. Sad.

[Abey]

He fell for the anti charedi scam. Sad.

He has a preconceived opinion against religious people since he is gay... although he tries to hide it (usually) on his blog, it seeps thru whenever he writes about anything religious

[Abey]

I do want to raise 1 point, that Ben chafetz guy sat in j so he might’ve not heard/seen the shouts/violence occurring
Especially on a 747

[ChaimMoskowitz]

He fell for the anti charedi scam. Sad.

He does have accounts from two passengers who had different perspectives. Is it possible we don't know the true/full story yet?

[travel agent]

someone donated for the beit chabad $72,000 to built a mikveh