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Re: Taking all bets on Trump winning 2020 Election.
« Reply #301 on: November 04, 2020, 02:23:29 PM »
From the horses mouth
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/524478-frank-luntz-polling-profession-done-after-election-misses-devastating-to-my

From the article: Univision was off by 55 points on the Cuban voters. How is that possible? There's being bad at your job, there's being a disgrace to your job, there's not doing your job at all, and then there's this.
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Re: Taking all bets on Trump winning 2020 Election.
« Reply #302 on: November 04, 2020, 03:16:23 PM »
From the article: Univision was off by 55 points on the Cuban voters. How is that possible? There's being bad at your job, there's being a disgrace to your job, there's not doing your job at all, and then there's this.
There was massive fraud in the Cuban areas that easily explains this and you know it.
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Re: Taking all bets on Trump winning 2020 Election.
« Reply #303 on: November 04, 2020, 03:23:46 PM »
There was massive fraud in the Cuban areas that easily explains this and you know it.
Where is twitter censorhip when you need it ;)
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Re: Taking all bets on Trump winning 2020 Election.
« Reply #304 on: November 04, 2020, 03:28:15 PM »
Where is twitter censorhip when you need it ;)
Do they censor /s?
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Re: Taking all bets on Trump winning 2020 Election.
« Reply #305 on: November 04, 2020, 03:32:50 PM »
There was massive fraud in the Cuban areas that easily explains this and you know it.

Link?
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Re: Taking all bets on Trump winning 2020 Election.
« Reply #306 on: November 04, 2020, 03:33:42 PM »

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Re: Taking all bets on Trump winning 2020 Election.
« Reply #307 on: November 04, 2020, 03:38:10 PM »
Only on DDF does 24/6 mean 24/5/half/half

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Re: Taking all bets on Trump winning 2020 Election.
« Reply #308 on: November 04, 2020, 04:51:54 PM »
See post above yours.

I already did. Have no idea what fraud you're talking about.
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Re: Taking all bets on Trump winning 2020 Election.
« Reply #309 on: November 04, 2020, 04:54:13 PM »
I already did. Have no idea what fraud you're talking about.
You miss the "/s"? It was sarcasm.
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Re: Taking all bets on Trump winning 2020 Election.
« Reply #310 on: November 04, 2020, 05:30:54 PM »
PM me your Zelle or PP email address and I will send the $100. You can make the donation.
I want to put a fork in this one as I have another one to start.  :)
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Re: Taking all bets on Trump winning 2020 Election.
« Reply #311 on: November 04, 2020, 06:52:35 PM »
PM me your Zelle or PP email address and I will send the $100. You can make the donation.
I want to put a fork in this one as I have another one to start.  :)
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would be kinda funny if this turns back to Trump ;D

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Re: Taking all bets on Trump winning 2020 Election.
« Reply #312 on: November 04, 2020, 07:03:02 PM »
RCP Florida average gave Biden 47.8% - exactly on mark. WI 50.5% - exactly on mark.

National is full of surprises, the blue states do a very poor job of counting absentee ballots, Biden may still have a large lead.

You have to distinguish between the data in the polls which is remarkably accurate and the interpretation
Weren't you the guy poking fun of the RCP average and saying that they are full of garbage pollsters showing fake pro Trump polls, and you have to look at the 538 average?
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Taking all bets on Trump winning 2020 Election.
« Reply #313 on: November 04, 2020, 07:05:28 PM »
would be kinda funny if this turns back to Trump ;D
Why? Isn't $100 to charity better than $1 in your pocket?
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Re: Taking all bets on Trump winning 2020 Election.
« Reply #314 on: November 04, 2020, 07:08:32 PM »
Weren't you the guy poking fun of the RCP average and saying that they are full of garbage pollsters showing fake pro Trump polls, and you have to look at the 538 average?
I never advocated the 538 average, but yes I think RCP manipulated his average pro Trump. It was a smart move in retrospect but not supported by any data or evidence.
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Re: Taking all bets on Trump winning 2020 Election.
« Reply #315 on: November 04, 2020, 07:19:12 PM »
I think RCP manipulated his average pro Trump. It was a smart move in retrospect but not supported by any data or evidence.

The level of Kool Aid required to defend the polls today is probably a controlled substance (even in OR)...

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Re: Taking all bets on Trump winning 2020 Election.
« Reply #316 on: November 04, 2020, 07:21:54 PM »
The level of Kool Aid required to defend the polls today is probably a controlled substance (even in OR)...
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Re: Taking all bets on Trump winning 2020 Election.
« Reply #317 on: November 04, 2020, 07:22:46 PM »
I never advocated the 538 average, but yes I think RCP manipulated his average pro Trump. It was a smart move in retrospect but not supported by any data or evidence.
So if a manipulated poll was needed to make the averages right then what does that say about the unanticipated ones.
You are not thinking these things through logically at all. Must be tired.
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Re: Taking all bets on Trump winning 2020 Election.
« Reply #318 on: November 04, 2020, 07:24:36 PM »
So if a manipulated poll was needed to make the averages right then what does that say about the unanticipated ones.
Making the Biden/Trump gap larger wouldn't necessarily make them less correct if they reported a large percent of undecideds instead. I agree it looks bad, but it has to be studied on it's merits
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Re: Taking all bets on Trump winning 2020 Election.
« Reply #319 on: November 04, 2020, 07:58:06 PM »
Making the Biden/Trump gap larger wouldn't necessarily make them less correct if they reported a large percent of undecideds instead. I agree it looks bad, but it has to be studied on it's merits
Yet you are studying them on your biases
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