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Re: credit card generator
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2018, 07:09:52 AM »
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Re: credit card generator
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2018, 08:59:46 AM »
@ChaimMoskowitz your assumption is that it's fraud. Accordingly, any justifiable intentions won't change the fact that it's fraud. They will just explain why it *may* not be immortal to commit the fraud (since no one is losing any money).

However, the question is also on your assumption
Are you positive that it is actually fraud to give a credit card with no funds. Do their terms and conditions say that there must be a sufficient credit line?
Is it fraud if you give a card with $100 credit limit, when the monthly billing is $110?

If you forgot to cancel you still are required to pay.
Obviously if they bill you for the next month and you decide not to pay it's fraud, but if they choose to cancel your subscription instead that's their decision.
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Re: credit card generator
« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2018, 10:27:24 AM »
Thatís exactly what weíre talking about, using a virtual card number

No, the virtual cards are valid card that are limited (by time or amount). The OP asked about using a fake card number that will get by the verification like this site provides;

like http://card-generator.com/

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Re: credit card generator
« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2018, 10:28:41 AM »
@ChaimMoskowitz your assumption is that it's fraud. Accordingly, any justifiable intentions won't change the fact that it's fraud. They will just explain why it *may* not be immortal to commit the fraud (since no one is losing any money).

However, the question is also on your assumption
Are you positive that it is actually fraud to give a credit card with no funds. Do their terms and conditions say that there must be a sufficient credit line?
Is it fraud if you give a card with $100 credit limit, when the monthly billing is $110?
Obviously if they bill you for the next month and you decide not to pay it's fraud, but if they choose to cancel your subscription instead that's their decision.
I get what you are saying and we can play this game forever. You are giving them a fake CC, PERIOD!!! Intent is pretty clear unless you just fell off the turnip truck.  :)
Is it illegal, fraud, immoral or unethical? Each person can decide that on their own.
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Re: credit card generator
« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2018, 10:33:32 AM »
Is it illegal, fraud, immoral or unethical? Each person can decide that on their own.
So you agree that other people can have a different option than you.
Nice

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Re: credit card generator
« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2018, 10:36:17 AM »
So you agree that other people can have a different option than you.
Nice
Of course, what ever gave you the idea they didn't?
That still doesn't change the fact of what it is.  :)
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Re: credit card generator
« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2018, 03:08:01 AM »
No, the virtual cards are valid card that are limited (by time or amount). The OP asked about using a fake card number that will get by the verification like this site provides;
Someone mentioned privacy.com, and I assumed thatís what this site provides as well. Privacy.com is identical to what Citi offers, limited by time or amount.

I was under the impression that thatís what we were debating all along.

Werenít we?
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Re: credit card generator
« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2018, 05:14:23 AM »
Eno from Capital One works great, only downside is that it's only available as a browser extention.
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Re: credit card generator
« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2018, 07:52:47 AM »
There are 3 most common payment methods
  • Cash
  • Check
  • Credi Card

There are a few Isues when you make a fake one
  • Counterfeit
  • Stealing from others
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Whoever, with intent to defraud, falsely makes, forges, counterfeits, or alters any obligation or other security of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.
Cash is a government document therefor it violates the law even if you don't use it anywhere just be reproducing with intent to defraud you're doing a crime,

Checks is not a government document you can print out from your printer whatever checks you like but don't try to do business with it,

Credit Card is not a government property if you use someone elses CC you're stealing from the CC owner or CC issuer, if you use a fake CC the one who took the card on file is a nutcase for not checking since there's a way to do it easily you get a response on the spot versus checks you wait 2 days till it clears, if you use a one time cc generator similar to City i would compare it to a ad blocker ext on your browser.

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Re: credit card generator
« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2018, 01:48:40 PM »
There are 3 most common payment methods
  • Cash
  • Check
  • Credi Card

There are a few Isues when you make a fake one
  • Counterfeit
  • Stealing from others
  • Midvar Sheker Tirchuk
Cash is a government document therefor it violates the law even if you don't use it anywhere just be reproducing with intent to defraud you're doing a crime,

Checks is not a government document you can print out from your printer whatever checks you like but don't try to do business with it,

Credit Card is not a government property if you use someone elses CC you're stealing from the CC owner or CC issuer, if you use a fake CC the one who took the card on file is a nutcase for not checking since there's a way to do it easily you get a response on the spot versus checks you wait 2 days till it clears, if you use a one time cc generator similar to City i would compare it to a ad blocker ext on your browser.

There is a way to check if a card is virtual (like Citi)?

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Re: credit card generator
« Reply #41 on: December 18, 2018, 11:08:14 AM »
Of course not.
of course it is different, when using citi cards they will try to do another charge and it will not go through but because it is backed by a real card they will put a hold on your card till either you dispute the charge because they will suspect fraud

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Re: credit card generator
« Reply #42 on: December 18, 2018, 11:16:05 AM »

Werenít we?
no we did not talk about Virtual Account Numbers this you can check up @drofcredit more here: https://www.doctorofcredit.com/list-of-banks-which-offer-virtual-account-numbers/

We were talking about fake generated cards

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Re: credit card generator
« Reply #43 on: December 18, 2018, 11:20:59 AM »
of course it is different, when using citi cards they will try to do another charge and it will not go through but because it is backed by a real card they will put a hold on your card till either you dispute the charge because they will suspect fraud
The intent is the exact same.
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Re: credit card generator
« Reply #44 on: December 23, 2018, 06:17:07 PM »
Of course not.
And what about giving a cc with an expiration date within a month?