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Re: #GOFUNDTHEWALL
« Reply #60 on: December 24, 2018, 11:10:34 AM »
I would love to give all my money to this cause but I can't. I fully support this cause and hope that we will get enough money for our wall. I hope that people will realize that the security of our country should be our number 1 priority! We should put America first and everything else second. I can't wait for this wall to be built, I want to feel safe in my country.

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Re: #GOFUNDTHEWALL
« Reply #61 on: December 24, 2018, 11:11:25 AM »
When our grandparents came, they came to work hard and fend for themselves. With the creation and expansion of social welfare programs there are more people coming to mooch off of the government (AKA taxpayers) and we don't want such people.

True but they said the same about Jewish gangsters and communists etc etc

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Re: #GOFUNDTHEWALL
« Reply #62 on: December 24, 2018, 11:12:16 AM »
True but they said the same about Jewish gangsters and communists etc etc
How did they say that before we became a welfare state?
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Re: #GOFUNDTHEWALL
« Reply #63 on: December 24, 2018, 11:20:27 AM »
When our grandparents came, they came to work hard and fend for themselves. With the creation and expansion of social welfare programs there are more people coming to mooch off of the government (AKA taxpayers) and we don't want such people.
Can you please provide some sort of evidence to back up this claim that Latin American immigrants are more lazy than our ancestors? If they are so lazy and coming to mooch, why are people worried they are stealing jobs? They don't want to work, they want welfare.

You can make the case for tighter immigration control without resorting to racism.
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Re: #GOFUNDTHEWALL
« Reply #64 on: December 24, 2018, 11:23:17 AM »
Can you please provide some sort of evidence to back up this claim that Latin American immigrants are more lazy than our ancestors?
You can't provide what doesn't exist.
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Re: #GOFUNDTHEWALL
« Reply #65 on: December 24, 2018, 11:25:14 AM »
You can't provide what doesn't exist.
It exists the same way the wall will.
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Re: #GOFUNDTHEWALL
« Reply #66 on: December 24, 2018, 11:27:16 AM »
It exists the same way the wall will.
Mexico is going to provide the evidence?  :)
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Re: #GOFUNDTHEWALL
« Reply #67 on: December 24, 2018, 11:29:26 AM »
Can you please provide some sort of evidence to back up this claim that Latin American immigrants are more lazy than our ancestors? If they are so lazy and coming to mooch, why are people worried they are stealing jobs? They don't want to work, they want welfare.

You can make the case for tighter immigration control without resorting to racism.
This is not about a specific race, this is about what are the incentives to migrate to the US. When our grandparents came, the incentive was the freedom to work hard and fend for yourself, now the bigger incentive is free money. I'm sure there are plenty of migrants who are coming to work hard and fend for themselves, but we can't just leave the border open to whoever wants to come because then we end up with too many who just want to mooch.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: #GOFUNDTHEWALL
« Reply #68 on: December 24, 2018, 11:35:09 AM »
This is not about a specific race, this is about what are the incentives to migrate to the US. When our grandparents came, the incentive was the freedom to work hard and fend for yourself, now the bigger incentive is free money. I'm sure there are plenty of migrants who are coming to work hard and fend for themselves, but we can't just leave the border open to whoever wants to come because then we end up with too many who just want to mooch.
The border is not open. Where do you get this from?
Please provide the evidence they are here to mooch.
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Re: #GOFUNDTHEWALL
« Reply #69 on: December 24, 2018, 11:42:01 AM »


Can you please provide some sort of evidence to back up this claim that Latin American immigrants are more lazy than our ancestors? If they are so lazy and coming to mooch, why are people worried they are stealing jobs? They don't want to work, they want welfare.

You can make the case for tighter immigration control without resorting to racism.

I happen to agree with this concept. I'm not convinced that all the Latin Americans are coming to rob us, rape our wives, kidnap our kids and steal our jobs. But, if they're coming to work hard and take advantage of the opportunities the USA has to offer, (as did our grandparents,) there's a way to do that, and it doesn't involve running, jumping and swimming. The idea of a wall/stricter border control, is not to lock out hard working Latin Americans looking for opportunity, for them there's a door in the wall with due process. It's to lock out those who come for "asylum" and to leach off our taxes.

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Re: #GOFUNDTHEWALL
« Reply #70 on: December 24, 2018, 11:44:59 AM »
But, if they're coming to work hard and take advantage of the opportunities the USA has to offer, (as did our grandparents,)
You mean like the Irish gangs? See how easy it is to flip the script?
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Re: #GOFUNDTHEWALL
« Reply #71 on: December 24, 2018, 11:48:38 AM »
You mean like the Irish gangs? See how easy it is to flip the script?
I'm not completely familiar with how the Irish gangs came about but if they came into the country legally then I don't think that what this conversation is about.

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Re: #GOFUNDTHEWALL
« Reply #72 on: December 24, 2018, 11:53:45 AM »
When our grandparents came, they came to work hard and fend for themselves. With the creation and expansion of social welfare programs there are more people coming to mooch off of the government (AKA taxpayers) and we don't want such people.

Immigrants of today work plenty hard and add more to the economy and tax rolls than they take out. Our

Immigrants aren't eligible for welfare, medicaid etc for at least five years

America is a rich and prosperous country and can more than cover the cost of adsorbing immigrants

They need to start a #GOFUNDTHEMARKET


I'm told by very reliable sources that the market has more than enough liquidity   ;D



The illegal  border crossings that the wall is meant to prevent peaked during the Bush years. Now most illegal immigrants are visa over stayers



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Re: #GOFUNDTHEWALL
« Reply #73 on: December 24, 2018, 11:55:11 AM »

I happen to agree with this concept. I'm not convinced that all the Latin Americans are coming to rob us, rape our wives, kidnap our kids and steal our jobs. But, if they're coming to work hard and take advantage of the opportunities the USA has to offer, (as did our grandparents,) there's a way to do that, and it doesn't involve running, jumping and swimming. The idea of a wall/stricter border control, is not to lock out hard working Latin Americans looking for opportunity, for them there's a door in the wall with due process. It's to lock out those who come for "asylum" and to leach off our taxes.
I'm not in favor of open borders. And like you, I do believe there should be rules in place. I'm not naive enough to think that everyone coming in is kodosh vetahor. I'm just saying you can make the argument without being racist.

Putting "asylum" in quotes when many are getting their kids out of places where they would be forced to join violent gangs at 11 years old is quite heartless.


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Re: #GOFUNDTHEWALL
« Reply #74 on: December 24, 2018, 11:58:42 AM »
I'm not in favor of open borders. And like you, I do believe there should be rules in place. I'm not naive enough to think that everyone coming in is kodosh vetahor. I'm just saying you can make the argument without being racist.

Putting "asylum" in quotes when many are getting their kids out of places where they would be forced to join violent gangs at 11 years old is quite heartless.
I wasn't sure if I should write that word but unfortunately there are many who sincerely are in need of asylum and many who are not.