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Anyone watching the USA Basketball team?
« on: July 16, 2012, 09:53:15 PM »
If they are struggling against Brazil, I would hate to see them vs Spain who has too much size for them.

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Re: Anyone watching the USA Basketball team?
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2012, 09:56:35 PM »
If they are struggling against Brazil, I would hate to see them vs Spain who has too much size for them.
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Re: Anyone watching the USA Basketball team?
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2012, 09:59:22 PM »
HA! And they said they would beat the dream team what a bunch of...

Larry Bird said it best- "The probably could. I havent played in 20 years and we are all old now."

1992 would crush them with their size.

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Re: Anyone watching the USA Basketball team?
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2012, 10:03:29 PM »
Larry Bird said it best- "The probably could. I havent played in 20 years and we are all old now."

1992 would crush them with their size.
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Re: Anyone watching the USA Basketball team?
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2012, 10:05:15 PM »
LOL! Yup. Btw our President is such a celebrity/rockstar type. Did you see his exit?

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Re: Anyone watching the USA Basketball team?
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2012, 10:11:38 PM »
If they are struggling against Brazil, I would hate to see them vs Spain who has too much size for them.

Um.. do you know who plays for Brazil? They have 3 significant NBA big men: Nene, Varejao, and Splitter. I'm not comparing that to Gasol, Gasol, and Ibaka, but we're not talking about a different class of players. Size will not be an issue.

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Re: Anyone watching the USA Basketball team?
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2012, 10:13:31 PM »
Um.. do you know who plays for Brazil? They have 3 significant NBA big men: Nene, Varejao, and Splitter. I'm not comparing that to Gasol, Gasol, and Ibaka, but we're not talking about a different class of players. Size will not be an issue.

I disgree, i think Spain's 3 is a different class of players, maybe not even comparable.

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Re: Anyone watching the USA Basketball team?
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2012, 10:14:43 PM »
Um.. do you know who plays for Brazil? They have 3 significant NBA big men: Nene, Varejao, and Splitter. I'm not comparing that to Gasol, Gasol, and Ibaka, but we're not talking about a different class of players. Size will not be an issue.
WOW did you really just compare Nene, Varejao, and Splitter to Kobe, Lebum, and Durant???  :o :o :o
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Re: Anyone watching the USA Basketball team?
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2012, 10:17:04 PM »
WOW did you really just compare Nene, Varejao, and Splitter to Kobe, Lebum, and Durant???  :o :o :o

I think he is comparing Nene, Varejao and Splitter to Gasol, Gasol, and Ibaka which i dont think is comparable when you check the stats, ASG appearances etc.

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Re: Anyone watching the USA Basketball team?
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2012, 10:18:42 PM »
I think he is comparing Nene, Varejao and Splitter to Gasol, Gasol, and Ibaka which i dont think is comparable when you check the stats, ASG appearances etc.
OK. I thought he was referring to them struggling against Brazil. And arguing that Brazil has 3 NBA guys... My bad.
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Re: Anyone watching the USA Basketball team?
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2012, 10:37:41 PM »
I think he is comparing Nene, Varejao and Splitter to Gasol, Gasol, and Ibaka which i dont think is comparable when you check the stats, ASG appearances etc.

Since you asked so nicely, here are the combined career per 48 minute stats for each group:

Year      MPG      FG%      3P%      FT%      RPG      APG      SPG      BPG      PPG
Spain   93.6      53%      24%      73%      12.4      3.0      1.0      2.9      20.7
Brazil   70.2      55%      5%      64%      12.6      2.5      1.7      1.4      18.2

I'd hardly call that in a different class.

ETA: The formatting for the table is a pain in the neck, sorry I couldn't get it to set up nicely.

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Re: Anyone watching the USA Basketball team?
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2012, 10:48:50 PM »
Since you asked so nicely, here are the combined career per 48 minute stats for each group:

Year      MPG      FG%      3P%      FT%      RPG      APG      SPG      BPG      PPG
Spain   93.6      53%      24%      73%      12.4      3.0      1.0      2.9      20.7
Brazil   70.2      55%      5%      64%      12.6      2.5      1.7      1.4      18.2

I'd hardly call that in a different class.

ETA: The formatting for the table is a pain in the neck, sorry I couldn't get it to set up nicely.

The formatting on the chart looks good.

 I just dont think you can pull the per 48's because its judging off minutes per game that these players didnt play for a reason. Nene and Varejao  have had  injury problems and Splitter is a back up right now because he sits behind the best player on the team. Gasol brothers have been consistent producers and Ibaka is more of a defensive stopper.

If you look at what the brazil 3 actually have done in their careers (im choosing Points as the easiest metric), Varejao is around 11 points a game (his first of 8 years in double digits), Splitter is at 9 points a game (which I will give you that it doesnt include the European part of his career and Nene is around 14 points per game (I used 2011-2012 since these are the most recent stats and the career stats would only lower the PPGs)

Based off their consistency and actual contributions Marc Gasol made the all star team this year, Pao is consistently among the top centers in the league/ (top 30 producers in the league- to be generous). Ibaka led the league in blocks.
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Re: Anyone watching the USA Basketball team?
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2012, 06:25:14 AM »
So who wants Spain against USA?
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Re: Anyone watching the USA Basketball team?
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2012, 10:39:07 AM »
How many points are you giving?
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Re: Anyone watching the USA Basketball team?
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2012, 11:00:02 AM »
How many points are you giving?
I want USA and you don’t have to give me any points. Since it seems everyone thinks they are not that good it should be a fair bet.  :)
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Re: Anyone watching the USA Basketball team?
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2012, 07:19:06 AM »
If they are struggling against Brazil, I would hate to see them vs Spain who has too much size for them.
So who wants Spain against USA?
Does anyone happen to know what the score was?  :P
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Re: Anyone watching the USA Basketball team?
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2012, 11:26:30 AM »
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Re: Anyone watching the USA Basketball team?
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2012, 04:50:07 PM »
i just hate the fact that kobe came out and said were better than the dream team,

but everyone saying that davis is playing well, what a gr8 baller
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Re: Anyone watching the USA Basketball team?
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2012, 08:06:11 PM »
Anyone catch todays score? :)
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Re: Anyone watching the USA Basketball team?
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2012, 08:10:05 PM »
Anyone catch todays score? :)
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