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Think of Moving?
-See the Pros and Cons of life in CLE here: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=21675.msg332327#msg332327
-See the Pros and Cons of Beachwood vs University Heights here: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1343.msg1718049#msg1718049
-See information about school vouchers here: https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1343.msg1949250#msg1949250


Airports:
-CLE is about 15 minutes from downtown and 25-30 minutes from the Jewish community.  It's a focus city for Frontier, Spirit, and United.
-The RTA (Rapid transit train) at Brookpark station has free parking and is just 1 train stop (3 minutes) to the stop inside the airport. The train costs $2.50 and the schedule is here: http://www.riderta.com/routes/redline/schedules/current#WestboundWeekday
An uber from Brookpark station to CLE is about $10.
-Uber between the Jewish community and CLE is about $30.
-CLE off-site parking is about $9/day, on-site parking is $13-$18/day, and curbside valet parking is $25/day.

-CAK is 40-45 minutes from the Jewish community and located nearby the NFL Hall of Fame.
-Uber between the Jewish community and CAK is about $45.
-CAK parking is $7/day for long-term and $15-$18/day for short-term.

-PIT is 90-105 minutes from the Jewish community. It offers nonstop service to Iceland on WOW, seasonal nonstop service to Paris on Delta, and seasonal nonstop service to Frankfurt on Condor.

Hotels:
-There is a new Hyatt Place in Legacy Village within walking distance of the Jewish community, though it's located just outside of the Eruv. It costs only 5K points/night.
-There is an SPG (Aloft) in Beachwood, but it's 3.5 miles to the jewish community.
-There is a Sheraton on the west side by the airport (30 minutes drive), a Westin downtown, and an Aloft in the flats.
-There is a highly regarded Sheraton Suites by Cuyahoga Falls/Akron.
-There is a nice Hyatt Regency downtown (25 minutes drive) in a unique vintage arcade building and an excellent spa that gives hotel guests 25% off and accepts SpaFinder certs from Costco that can be purchased for an additional 20% off.
-There is a Hyatt Place in Independence located between the airport and Jewish community with a free airport shuttle.

Transportation:
-There is a subway/light rail connecting the airport with downtown, University Circle (where the Case campus and many museums are) and the Jewish community area, but renting a car is pretty much required.

Minyan times and locations:
https://www.localjewishnews.com/minyanim/

CLE Metro Activities:
Download Aaron's (fantastic) Guide to Cleveland by clicking here

Museums:
-Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (Downtown)
-Great Lakes Science Center (Downtown)
-NFL Hall of Fame (Canton)
-National Inventors Hall of Fame. (Akron)
-Cleveland Museum of Art, one of the best in the nation and it's free (University Circle)
-Children's Museum  (University Circle)
-Museum of Natural History and Planetarium (University Circle)
-Auto-Aviation museum has lots of vintage cars and more (University Circle)
-Maltz Museum of Jewish Heritage (Beachwood)
-Polka Hall of Fame (Downtown)

Amusement parks/Thrill rides/Game Rooms:
-Cedar Point has been voted "Best Amusement Park in the World" for 16 consecutive years. It has the best and several of the top 10 coasters in the world. (Sandusky, open May-October)
-IX Indoor Amusement Park (Open March/April)
-Chalet Tobogganing (November-March) on the west side.
-Fun-n-stuff (Arcades, later tag, mini golf, rock climbing, roller skating, mini go karts for the little ones, regular go karts, bumper boats, batting cages, etc.)
-Whirly ball is a spin-off of Basketball played on bumper cars.
-Dave & Busters is on the west side near Crocker Park.
-African Safari Wildlife Park Sandusky
-Kalahari Indoor Waterpark and Soak City outdoor waterpark in Sandusky.
-Memphis Kiddie Park (Amusement park for kids)
-Jumpyard for kids
-Playground World for kids
-Swings & Things
-Make Believe (Parma)
-Adrenaline Monkey
-Play Cle

Beaches/Water Activities:
-North Coast Harbor Marina has Jet skis for 100/hr and 60/half hr. Paddle boats, kayaks, and paddle boards are $25/hour or $15/half hr (Downtown).
-Edgewater beach park
-Mentor Headlands beach park
-Geneva on the lake.
-Jet Pack Water Adventures in Sandusky

Sports:
-The Indians, Cavs, and Browns provide major league sports entertainment in downtown Cleveland along with the minor league hockey Lake Erie Monsters.  Browns games are great with some of the best/craziest fans in the NFL and the Indians have a glatt kosher hot dog stand.
-There are minor league Indians teams in Akron and in Eastlake on the east side of Cleveland.

Other activities:
-Segway tour of Downtown CLE
-Zoo and Rainforest (Free for CLE residents on Mondays)
-Aquarium (Downtown)
-Horseshoe Casino, Smoke-free! (Downtown)
-Cleveland Orchestra, one of the "Big Five" American orchestras (University Circle)
-Playhouse Square, second largest theater complex in the United States with Broadway shows at a fraction of the cost on Broadway.
-East 4th downtown pedestrian street district (bars/comedy shows/bowling/casino).
-Lake Erie Islands/Put-in-Bay.
-Big Fun novelty toy store (Cleveland Heights)
-Chagrin Falls is a quaint village on the east side to walk around and you to can be chagrined by the falls.
-Outdoor Ice Skating. (University Circle)
-Amish country.
-Horseback Riding

Shopping:
-Legacy Village is an outdoor mall in the Jewish community.
-Pinecrest is a new outdoor mall and is a great place to walk around. Big Fun has lots of kosher candy and popcorn. Graeter's has Star-K parve sorbet and Star-D ice cream. Pinstripes has bocce and bowling and games are just $1 for the last hour of each day.
-Beachwood Place is an indoor mall in the Jewish community.
-Eton is a high-end strip-mall near the Jewish community.
-Crocker Park is an excellent outdoor mall on the west-side of town.
-West Side Market is a world-renown indoor food and produce market in Ohio City west of downtown (Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday)

Hiking/Nature:
-Cuyahoga Valley National Park and Train rides.
-The "Emerald Necklace" is a chain of green Metroparks with great hiking that surrounds Cleveland.  October should be perfect to view the fall foliage.
-Acacia reservation is in the jewish community.
-Squire's Castle in the North Chagrin Reservation of the Cleveland Metroparks.
-Squaw Rock in South Chagrin Reservation of the Cleveland Metroparks.

Nearby Cities:
-Erie/Presque Isle Beach (1.5 hours)
-Pittsburgh (2 hours)
-Columbus (2 hours)
-Detroit (2.5 hours)
-Niagara Falls (3 hours)
-Toronto (4.5 hours)
-Chicago (6 hours)
-Baltimore (6 hours)
-NYC (7 hours)
-Lakewood (8 hours)

Microbreweries:

-Bottlehouse microbrewery (You can bring your own food!)  (Cleveland Heights, 4.5/5 DD stars)

-Great Lakes Brewpub and Brewery in Ohio City (Don't miss the mob-era bullet holes, tours available, 4.5/5 DD stars)

-Market Garden Brewery in Ohio City

Kosher Eateries:

Delivery is available on:
UberEats: Bar Sushi, Jade
Doordash: Arova, FishStix, Grand Coffee, Isis, Kantina

1. Arova (South Euclid)
Good shnitzel, decent Shwarma, mediocre Falafel in homemade Laffas.

2. Bagel Shoppe (South Euclid)
Don't miss the excellent Jalapano bagels and ask them to add garlic crunch inside. Shabbos takeout (dips/kugels) is available here.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/TheBagelShoppe/about

3. Bar Sushi(Beachwood)
New sushi store with small eat-in area. You can bring sushi next door and eat in at Bar None where they serve kosher wines and beers.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/barsushicleveland/about/

4. FishStix (Beachwood) has excellent fish and chips. Shabbos takeout (dips/kugels) is available here.
https://www.fishstixonline.com/

5. Jade(South Euclid)
Delicious chinese food: Steamed dumplings, fried won-tons, hot and sour+wonton combo soup, spicy mala chicken, sesame chicken, lemon chicken are all great. Shabbos takeout can be ordered from here in advance.

6. Kantina (Cleveland uptown/University Circle): Burger, Kantina Burger, Shnitzel, Shnitzel fried steak , Cookie Dough Shake, Buffalo chicken, Felafel, and Fries are all very inexpensive.
https://www.kantinakatering.com/new-page
https://www.doordash.com/store/kantina-cleveland-202802/

7. Kinneret Pizza (Cleveland Heights)
Very good plain pizza, order with extra sauce and well done. Avoid the toppings. 
Excellent garlic knots. Very good homemade onion rings and cauliflower.  Sushi is very good when fresh. Good spicy fries and decent Eggplant Parmesan.  Delicious soft serve Ice Cream with 8 flavor choices.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kinneret-Kosher-Pizza-Restaurant/100882353290369

8. Issi's Pizza (South Euclid)
The pizza is made in a conveyor belt oven. You'll either like it or hate it.  Try the felafel pizza with extra sauce and request it made well done.
http://issisplace.com/
https://www.doordash.com/store/issi-s-place-south-euclid-304154/

9. Sababa (South Euclid)
Decent Sushi, Japanese, and Israeli food.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Sababa-Cuisine-655818931222332/about

10. Subway (Beachwood)
Typical Subway with parve cheese available.
http://www.mandeljcc.org/kosher-subway/mandel/

11. The glatt kosher hot dog stand at Progressive Field (Downtown Cleveland, 4/5 stars) near section 149 is open during Indians games and is under Cleveland Kosher. 2018 price is $8 per hot dog. Be sure to ask for packets of Bertman mustard.
Bring your own water bottles to avoid paying $5 for water!
https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2017/06/what_does_kosher_mean_at_the_b.html


-JSL Catering has occasional restaurant nights and has shabbos takeout available with advance ordering.
https://jslcatering.com/

-Ungers Bakery & Kosher Market (Cleveland Heights, Donuts: 5/5 DD stars, other bakery goods: 2/5 DD stars) closes at 8pm, but often may let you in later as they have bakers there all night long.
My favorites are the custard and cinnamon donuts. Others love the Miami and glaze donuts.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ungers-Kosher-Bakery-Food-Shop/115920261762129

-Chocolate Emporium (South Euclid) has chocolates made on-site as well as other gifts.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/ChocolateEmporiumCLE/about

-Grand Coffee (Cleveland Heights) sells C"Y coffee, ice cream, and milk shakes in a Judaica store.

-Tibor's (Beachwood) has a deli with lots of prepared food and good spicy homemade salami and beef jerky.  They also carry bakery goods from Ungers. Shabbos takeout is available here.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Tibors-Kosher-Meats/126208197434026

-Boris' (University Heights) is yet another butcher/deli with kosher grocery items that also carries Pride of the Farm Ice Cream.
http://www.boriskosher.com/

-Heinen's (University Heights) has a great kosher grocery section with packaged prepared meals. Shabbos takeout is available here.

-Costco (Mayfield Heights) has a large kosher section.

-Mitchell's Ice Cream (Beachwood and Ohio City, Considered some of the finest ice cream in the world. Cholov Stam under Quality Kosher, which is not a universally accepted hashgocha, so AYLOR).

-Graeter's Ice Cream (Pinecrest, Parve and Cholov Stam. Ice creams are under the Star-K, but the actual store is not.).
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« Reply #645 on: February 13, 2014, 03:22:37 PM »
No idea.
Chabad is 10am-12:10pm
Others can chime in hopefully.
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« Reply #646 on: February 13, 2014, 03:25:55 PM »
Oh got you
Now next q. What is the quickest davening Shabbos morning on green ?
Late or early?

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« Reply #647 on: February 13, 2014, 03:33:53 PM »
Great back and forth! From people very in the know there are other issues besides just competency with opening a food establishment here. Dumb politics but politics nonetheless. BTW Sababa's is for sale and has been for some time if anyone is interested.

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« Reply #649 on: February 13, 2014, 03:38:34 PM »
Great back and forth! From people very in the know there are other issues besides just competency with opening a food establishment here. Dumb politics but politics nonetheless. BTW Sababa's is for sale and has been for some time if anyone is interested.
You would have to be nuts to buy Sababa.  Who would want to be associated with that?
What are the politics?
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Re: Cleveland Master Thread
« Reply #650 on: February 13, 2014, 03:41:16 PM »
Some of the older food related businesses (not eateries), do not take kindly to someone trying to come into their turf. Regarding Sababa, the price he is asking is resonable enough for someone to buy it and completely revamp the place. Make a good fast food place. I think it could make money.

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« Reply #651 on: February 13, 2014, 04:04:05 PM »
No windows, no cell service, poor reputation, horrible parking (for CLE anyways).
I'd stay far away.

A place like Milt's or ABC would just kill it here.
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Re: Cleveland Master Thread
« Reply #652 on: February 13, 2014, 04:26:45 PM »
BTW Sababa's is for sale and has been for some time if anyone is interested.

So is Unger's, FWIH (or at least was, at some point).

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Re: Cleveland Master Thread
« Reply #653 on: February 13, 2014, 04:28:08 PM »
I dunno, I've never been too impressed with any fleishig place in Israel either :P

You totally missed my point. I'm not talking about fine dining; I'm saying that even a fast food/burger joint here is more impressive than Cleveland's former "fine dining" champ. :P

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« Reply #654 on: February 13, 2014, 04:30:02 PM »
Everyone told me I had to go to Sheyan but I don't think it's anything that is worth bragging about.  Unless I should start bragging about J Grill or Sababa.

Make me a list of where I need to go in Israel and when the Waldorf opens I'll have to plan a trip.
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Re: Cleveland Master Thread
« Reply #655 on: February 13, 2014, 04:39:29 PM »
Everyone told me I had to go to Sheyan but I don't think it's anything that is worth bragging about.  Unless I should start bragging about J Grill or Sababa.

Make me a list of where I need to go in Israel and when the Waldorf opens I'll have to plan a trip.
Well for the best shawarma in halo taiman in bnei brak is a must

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Re: Cleveland Master Thread
« Reply #656 on: February 13, 2014, 04:40:13 PM »
So is Unger's, FWIH (or at least was, at some point).
Ya if you have $10,000,000

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« Reply #657 on: February 13, 2014, 04:44:31 PM »
Well for the best shawarma in halo taiman in bnei brak is a must
Keep it in the Israel thread and add a Wiki of true can't be missed items for us foodies.
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« Reply #658 on: February 13, 2014, 05:08:23 PM »
Keep it in the Israel thread and add a Wiki of true can't be missed items for us foodies.

Not a whole lot of those, actually. :P Good food, but probably won't hold a candle to Shallots or Milt's.

FTR, a DDFer has been inside the Waldorf already (I'll let him identify himself if he wants). He was at the "launch party" for travel professionals, after which a relative of his (who is pretty high up on the food chain) gave him the master key to the hotel, and let him explore it to his heart's content. :D

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Re: Cleveland Master Thread
« Reply #659 on: February 13, 2014, 08:36:38 PM »
Heinens is a rip, but there kosher section is convenient. More expensive than ungers though at least you know the stuff is fresh.
Marcs is ridiculously cheap, but definitely no frills shopping.
OK, so we're all waiting on your verdict on those cc's from Marc's (but not 'those' cc's, the Chocolate Chips = cc's).
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