Public Opinion Survey: Views on Israel's Response to Iran

[Yehuda57]

What if the blew up an Israeli embassy in the US. Would that be considered as escalation?

Iran would *never* attack an embassy. That is beneath them

[Yehuda57]

I understand that but also look at there is a pause and restart.

I don't look at Oct 7 as something from 1979. I look at as an escalation of the magnitude we have not seen before. I don't know if you want to call it a pause and a restart but for me it is a new starting point for this war.

Of course we agree that Oct 7th is beyond anything we have seen. I don't see how that changes anything in the conversation, if anything it makes Israel's attack even more necessary and just.

To say that Oct 7th was an escalation, and therefore that creates some sort of reset so that anything coming afterward is itself an escalation is obviously ridiculous and you clearly don't mean that. I'm just not sure what you do mean.

[CountValentine]

To say that Oct 7th was an escalation, and therefore that creates some sort of reset so that anything coming afterward is itself an escalation is obviously ridiculous and you clearly don't mean that. I'm just not sure what you do mean.

Oct 7 needs a response because of what happened on Oct 7 and not from 1979. New starting point.
The bombing of the annex building needs a response from Iran because of that bombing and not from 1979. New starting point.

I hear all the time on certain news channels what would do the US do if Iran attacked us like that.
Let's see if recent history will give the result. I did find a case a few years back where they did launch some missiles at our military bases. They cause more injuries and destruction than the launch on Israel. What was the US response, absolutely nothing!!!

[EliJelly]

I hear all the time on certain news channels what would do the US do if Iran attacked us like that.
Let's see if recent history will give the result. I did find a case a few years back where they did launch some missiles at our military bases. They cause more injuries and destruction than the launch on Israel. What was the US response, absolutely nothing!!!

1. You can't compare a strike on a base in a foreign country to raining missiles on the homeland. 2. It was indeed foolish not to respond to that and it emboldened the Iranians.

[CountValentine]

1. You can't compare a strike on a base in a foreign country to raining missiles on the homeland. 2. It was indeed foolish not to respond to that and it emboldened the Iranians.

Actually you can. If Israel had those same base locations IMHO they would have been bombed.

[EliJelly]

Actually you can. If Israel had those same base locations IMHO they would have been bombed.

I'm afraid you're not following. Of course it would have been bombed, as it is an easier target than hitting another homeland. You yourself argue that even targeting the consulate annex is a new step, although Israel has been bombing IRGC bases in Syria regularly before that.

[CountValentine]

I'm afraid you're not following. Of course it would have been bombed, as it is an easier target than hitting another homeland. You yourself argue that even targeting the consulate annex is a new step, although Israel has been bombing IRGC bases in Syria regularly before that.

So it can't be an escalation because Israel has been bombing Iran directly (bases, consulate) for years?

You are correct that I am not following.

[CountValentine]

Israel - If we don't do something they will think this is the new norm.
Iran - If we don't do something they will think this is the new norm.

Is this where we are at?

[EliJelly]

So it can't be an escalation because Israel has been bombing Iran directly (bases, consulate) for years?

You are correct that I am not following.

Oy, bases and consulates are not the same. Israel has never bombed Iran directly, bombing their foreign bases is not considered a direct attack, especially when the bases are there to orchestrate attacks against you. (i.e. IRGC bases in Syria to help Hezbollah with logistics, weapon transfers etc. to attack Israel)

Bombing an Embassy/Consulate is a step ahead. Israel has not been doing that before, but just did, according to Iran and others who view the annex building as an attack on the Consulate. 

Bombing (raining!) missiles on another homeland is the absolute offence and the strongest form of openly declaring war.

[Yehuda57]

Israel - If we don't do something they will think this is the new norm.
Iran - If we don't do something they will think this is the new norm.

Is this where we are at?

The Iran "norm" is that Israel needs to be wiped off the face of the map. They are always playing the game of "let's see how far we can take it and still be alive tomorrow to continue the mission".

[CountValentine]

The Iran "norm" is that Israel needs to be wiped off the face of the map. They are always playing the game of "let's see how far we can take it and still be alive tomorrow to continue the mission".

Then why didn't they launch from every angle with no warning. It has already been shown the ID can be overwhelmed?

[Mr. CC]

Then why didn't they launch from every angle with no warning. It has already been shown the ID can be overwhelmed?

... and still be alive tomorrow to continue the mission".

[CountValentine]

Unless they plan on using a nuke it will never happen.
You really think Hamas or under another name will not be around in Gaza after it is over?

[Jellybelly]

We will not agree on this because we have different perspectives. That does not mean you are wrong.

At this time Iran does not want a direct war with Israel. They can talk all they want (just like NK does with the US) but they know an all-out war means the destruction of Iran. If you corner an animal don't be surprised when he fights back.

The question is, who is the animal that’s backed into a corner here?
I think most people here will answer differently then you....

[aygart]

The question is, who is the animal that’s backed into a corner here?
I think most people here will answer differently then you....

There can be more than one

[CountValentine]

The question is, who is the animal that’s backed into a corner here?
I think most people here will answer differently then you....

When Israel bombs Iran it will be Iran. Most here wouldn't agree?

[Yehuda57]

When Israel bombs Iran it will be Iran. Most here wouldn't agree?

Ha? So it doesn't matter what has happened until that point, or what the motivation of either party is?

[aygart]

Ha? So it doesn't matter what has happened until that point, or what the motivation of either party is?

Why would that change who is backed into a corner at any point?

[CountValentine]

Ha? So it doesn't matter what has happened until that point, or what the motivation of either party is?

I was just answering the question, that is all.
Trying the KISS approach. 

[Yehuda57]

Why would that change who is backed into a corner at any point?

Then it is a pointless analogy