Author Topic: Morristown CC scandal (Read 9632 times)

The same reason any college needs it. And a security breach can happen anywhere, anytime.
You're making it sound like the yeshiva was behind the CC apps while according to the rumor thus far, it was an employee. This can happen anywhere.

The question is not whether the Yeshiva knew about it, or not.
The questions are, once they found out, did they take the (legal) necessary steps to ensure peoples' privacy was protected, and have the proper authorities been contacted?
Is there an investigation currently taking place?
Have they implemented further security measures to prevent future fraud?
Has anybody been compensated? Should anybody be compensated? How much?
Can the people who were not affected in the past be victims of future fraud from the same source?
What can the bochurim do to protect themselves from this guy?(who may, or may not actually have in his possession their SSN's)

I'm certain there are more questions to be asked, but that's what came to mind initially.

real-brisker · « **Reply #30 on:** January 30, 2013, 06:28:15 PM »

Quote from: rots5 on January 30, 2013, 05:13:54 PM

is menucha your barber too?!?

So your suspecting him/her

?

Avid Reader · « **Reply #31 on:** January 30, 2013, 08:30:21 PM »

@ classesandmethods
Lots valid questions. I'm wondering the same. So far all we have are rumors. I asked my brother if he can find the letter from the yeshiva, and will post it IYH if he finds it. The letter said something to the affect that the Yeshiva was found to be not at fault.

elizmm · « **Reply #32 on:** January 31, 2013, 12:18:52 AM »

Did he at least pay the credit cards?

daganster · « **Reply #33 on:** January 31, 2013, 12:22:21 AM »

Quote from: elizmm on January 31, 2013, 12:18:52 AM

Did he at least pay the credit cards?

Are there unpaid credit card bills or he just did it for the miles? I'm in Motown quite often I most probably know this guy.

U-no-me! · « **Reply #34 on:** February 09, 2013, 12:13:33 PM »

Quote from: MEIR613 on January 30, 2013, 12:28:19 AM

I have a feeling, hes here

Is it only a feeling, or do you know for a fact?

elizmm · « **Reply #35 on:** February 09, 2013, 07:08:14 PM »

This Shabbos I found out what happened:

One of the guys in the back office created tons of authorized users on his Amex cards so that he can take advantage of the Amex-SBS, he then removed them all from his cards.

I am not sure what the limit is on adding authorized users, but even if he created 160 cards that brings him to $4000 - not such a large amount to risk losing your job and possible jail time! Just open a few credit cards and you will make more then that.

From my understanding he was fired.

So it is not as bad as it seemed initially being that they were only authorized users..

If he would of just asked all the bochrim permission and split the $25 he would of been in a much better shape and still employed..

YankyDoodle · « **Reply #36 on:** February 09, 2013, 07:10:43 PM »

Quote from: elizmm on February 09, 2013, 07:08:14 PM

This Shabbos I found out what happened:

One of the guys in the back office created tons of authorized users on his Amex cards so that he can take advantage of the Amex-SBS, he then removed them all from his cards.

I am not sure what the limit is on adding authorized users, but even if he created 160 cards that brings him to $4000 - not such a large amount to risk losing your job and possible jail time! Just open a few credit cards and you will make more then that.

From my understanding he was fired.

So it is not as bad as it seemed initially being that they were only authorized users..

If he would of just asked all the bochrim permission and split the $25 he would of been in a much better shape and still employed..

How did anyone find out? If it was simply AU it wouldn't even come up in someone's credit history...

churnbabychurn · « **Reply #37 on:** February 09, 2013, 07:31:35 PM »

Quote from: YankyDoodle on February 09, 2013, 07:10:43 PM

How did anyone find out? If it was simply AU it wouldn't even come up in someone's credit history...

IME it does with amex.

jj1000 · « **Reply #38 on:** February 09, 2013, 07:36:08 PM »

Quote from: elizmm on February 09, 2013, 07:08:14 PM

This Shabbos I found out what happened:

One of the guys in the back office created tons of authorized users on his Amex cards so that he can take advantage of the Amex-SBS, he then removed them all from his cards.

I am not sure what the limit is on adding authorized users, but even if he created 160 cards that brings him to $4000 - not such a large amount to risk losing your job and possible jail time! Just open a few credit cards and you will make more then that.

From my understanding he was fired.

So it is not as bad as it seemed initially being that they were only authorized users..

If he would of just asked all the bochrim permission and split the $25 he would of been in a much better shape and still employed..

Not as bad as I thought. Still sick move and really dumb. He did get fired I know the guys name. I wonder if he is a member. Sure hope not.

Quote from: churnbabychurn on February 09, 2013, 07:31:35 PM

IME it does with amex.

+1

Just saying this is advantageous for some of the bochurim. Now their first account with Amex will begin this year if they never had a card before...

Nitantnel · « **Reply #39 on:** February 09, 2013, 08:08:40 PM »

Quote from: jj1000 on February 09, 2013, 07:36:08 PM

Not as bad as I thought. Still sick move and really dumb. He did get fired I know the guys name. I wonder if he is a member. Sure hope not.
+1

Just saying this is advantageous for some of the bochurim. Now their first account with Amex will begin this year if they never had a card before...

And also disadvantageous if the primary user had bad credit.

On a totally different note: There's this guy in CH that was collecting signatures and license numbers in order "to free Sholom Rubashkin," I am not sure what can be done with a License number so I just gave it to him.
Now If he wasn't nuts already, by now I am sure he is: I saw carrying on Shabbos screaming for Rubashkin's sake. Had anyone else bumped into him?