Trick-It Master Thread

[jj1000]

You're a psychopathic racist sociopath.
Unless you can prove I'm wrong. 

I don't think he disagrees with that description.

[rileywiles23]

You're a psychopathic racist sociopath.
Unless you can prove I'm wrong. 

TIL that pretending to be a vegetable is a form of activity

Not that I'm 100% sure, but I think there are many people on DDF, who have many usernames, and play around with them for different topics etc. His point might have been, that he's one of those people.

[sruly]

Soda container, 1842-1997

Am I the only one who figured this out with the last 2 clues ?

[ycohen]

Am I the only one who figured this out with the last 2 clues ?

+1:)

[Moishebatchy]

I changed my opinion on this issue.

I spoke to some people who explained me the dangers of publicly talking about FD and they're damn right.

I'm gonna come forward on this one... it was me.

I had a chat with mesh (and a few other people) a few days ago, where I explained a few aspects of the dark side of fuel dumping - why it's very different than hidden city, why the DoT will not protect you (yes, I have firsthand knowledge of multiple cases of people who were denied boarding due to their fuel-dumped tickets getting flagged), and why a fuel dump getting exposed not only kills it going forward, but also kills it retroactively for all those who already booked.

It's not like a regular price mistake where Dan can eventually update the post with "Update: DEAD!!! Congratulations to all those who managed to book in time!" No, with most fuel dumps, the airline can still cancel your ticket if you haven't flown yet, even months after it was booked, and the DoT regulation will not apply. Even worse, if you've flown your outbound but not your return, they can strand you at your destination and deny boarding for your return flight unless you pay the missing YQ.

Think all of the above is hyperbole? I can honestly affirm that every single sentence I wrote is based on at least one horror story that I know of first-hand, in some cases more than one story.



So when mesh says that his opinion used to be one way, and now he changed his mind... I believe him. I was there when it happened.

[sruly]

I changed my opinion on this issue.

I spoke to some people who explained me the dangers of publicly talking about FD and they're damn right.

Yes, I'm proud to say I don't walk with my head to the wall.
I have an open mind, and I'm always open to hear someone else's opinion.

And if they're right, I'll give it to them.

Nothing wrong with that.

The world would be in much better shape if more people are open to change opinions when proven wrong.

Explanation accepted.

[jj1000]

I'm gonna come forward on this one... it was me.

I had a chat with mesh (and a few other people) a few days ago, where I explained a few aspects of the dark side of fuel dumping - why it's very different than hidden city, why the DoT will not protect you (yes, I have firsthand knowledge of multiple cases of people who were denied boarding due to their fuel-dumped tickets getting flagged), and why a fuel dump getting exposed not only kills it going forward, but also kills it retroactively for all those who already booked.

It's not like a regular price mistake where Dan can eventually update the post with "Update: DEAD!!! Congratulations to all those who managed to book in time!" No, with most fuel dumps, the airline can still cancel your ticket if you haven't flown yet, even months after it was booked, and the DoT regulation will not apply. Even worse, if you've flown your outbound but not your return, they can strand you at your destination and deny boarding for your return flight unless you pay the missing YQ.

Think all of the above is hyperbole? I can honestly affirm that every single sentence I wrote is based on at least one horror story that I know of first-hand, in some cases more than one story.



So when mesh says that his opinion used to be one way, and now he changed his mind... I believe him. I was there when it happened.

You should go into missionaryism.

[Aaaron]

So FDs should never be discussed on DDF? 

If OP had posted more surreptitiously would it be OK?

[KidOOO]

Still don't get why you guys still have that stupid signature, when all it does is draw attention. Unless you actually do want it publicized

[Matovu]

And keep the LONG posts about the issue coming.

[Moishebatchy]

So FDs should never be discussed on DDF? 

If OP had posted more surreptitiously would it be OK?

FDs should never be discussed in public. Period. Not here, not on any other publicly-accessible forum.

Y'know how there are certain topics that Dan only mentions at DD seminars and asks people not to talk about them, or post about them on DDF? So this is kind of like that, except even more secretive. This is not DDS material; this is material for the exclusive DDS afterparty.

[Iz]

I'm gonna come forward on this one... it was me.

I had a chat with mesh (and a few other people) a few days ago, where I explained a few aspects of the dark side of fuel dumping - why it's very different than hidden city, why the DoT will not protect you (yes, I have firsthand knowledge of multiple cases of people who were denied boarding due to their fuel-dumped tickets getting flagged), and why a fuel dump getting exposed not only kills it going forward, but also kills it retroactively for all those who already booked.

It's not like a regular price mistake where Dan can eventually update the post with "Update: DEAD!!! Congratulations to all those who managed to book in time!" No, with most fuel dumps, the airline can still cancel your ticket if you haven't flown yet, even months after it was booked, and the DoT regulation will not apply. Even worse, if you've flown your outbound but not your return, they can strand you at your destination and deny boarding for your return flight unless you pay the missing YQ.

Think all of the above is hyperbole? I can honestly affirm that every single sentence I wrote is based on at least one horror story that I know of first-hand, in some cases more than one story.



So when mesh says that his opinion used to be one way, and now he changed his mind... I believe him. I was there when it happened.

Presumably on the entire flight (including the 3x), correct?

[Iz]

FDs should never be discussed in public. Period. Not here, not on any other publicly-accessible forum.

Y'know how there are certain topics that Dan only mentions at DD seminars and asks people not to talk about them, or post about them on DDF? So this is kind of like that, except even more secretive. This is not DDS material; this is material for the exclusive DDS afterparty.

If it's so risky (which I don't doubt), why would it be recommended at all, even at DDS (or party)?

[Moishebatchy]

Presumably on the entire flight (including the 3x), correct?

Correct. When you add a 3x, it's not like you're suddenly patur from YQ; it's more like you scramble the computer from calculating it properly - but in reality, you should now owe YQ for three flights, not just two.

[Moishebatchy]

If it's so risky (which I don't doubt), why would it be recommended at all, even at DDS (or party)?

I said it is NOT DDS material. The "afterparty" is usually only a few people, and they are generally not from the unwashed masses, either.

[etech0]

Still don't get why you guys still have that stupid signature, when all it does is draw attention. Unless you actually do want it publicized

+1

[Iz]

I said it is NOT DDS material. The "afterparty" is usually only a few people, and they are generally not from the unwashed masses, either.

I know, but even there, it sounds like it's too risky, regardless of one's washed status.
What's the risk/reward ratio? I'd love to hear Dan weigh in on this.

[rileywiles23]

@Moshebatchy, according to your logic, I'm assuming your against the whole FT thread on FD,  ?

[Dr Moose]

To sum up this thread, those who know about FDs (even if not necessarily this one) want this thread deleted. And those who don't know anything about them and want to learn (without much work, I may add) want this thread to stay open.

[Dan]

And those who didn't know details before were mad when it was temp removed before, while when they knew about it from insiders this time are mad its not deleted.