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Re: LIFE INSURANCE
« Reply #1060 on: May 20, 2024, 11:36:04 AM »
I believe this analogy has been mentioned multiple times but again when you are comparing two things it always depends on your goal for example it's your goal is to get from point A to point B you might as well compare a car to a motorcycle but if you are comparing a transportation vehicle to own they might be two different things.
You might want to compare life insurance to another investment to decide which vehicle to invest in however you can still not compare the two products using the same criteria but you should be able to compare the outcomes
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Re: LIFE INSURANCE
« Reply #1061 on: Yesterday at 09:14:58 AM »
You can compare two different cars. But a car vs a motorcycle is a completely different skill set and experience.

Apples and oranges are also both fruit. But we still don't compare apples and oranges.
Why wouldn't we compare apples and oranges? They are both fruit. They both satiate
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Re: LIFE INSURANCE
« Reply #1062 on: Yesterday at 10:07:48 AM »
Why wouldn't we compare apples and oranges? They are both fruit. They both satiate

IDK. It's a common expression.

OK. Replace apples (pomme) with potatoes (pomme de terre).

Do you also compare a savings account to an S&P mutual fund or ETF?

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Re: LIFE INSURANCE
« Reply #1063 on: Yesterday at 10:13:27 AM »
Why wouldn't we compare apples and oranges? They are both fruit. They both satiate
We do, we just need to be aware that we can't compare some specifics because they're two different fruits. Same goes here
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Re: LIFE INSURANCE
« Reply #1064 on: Yesterday at 10:48:44 AM »
GPT 4o:

The phrase "comparing apples and oranges" is a common idiom that highlights the difficulty or impossibility of comparing two things that are fundamentally different in nature. Here are some reasons why this comparison is often seen as impractical:

1. **Different Categories**: Apples and oranges belong to different categories of fruit, with distinct characteristics, flavors, textures, and nutritional values. Comparing them directly is akin to comparing unrelated items.

2. **Subjective Criteria**: The criteria for comparison may vary widely. For instance, if you compare them based on taste, texture, or nutritional content, the results will be highly subjective and context-dependent.

3. **Purpose and Usage**: Apples and oranges are used differently in culinary contexts. Apples might be preferred for pies, while oranges are favored for juice. Their uses and culinary applications differ significantly.

4. **Variety and Species**: Both apples and oranges come in many varieties, each with unique properties. Comparing a Granny Smith apple to a Navel orange is different from comparing a Fuji apple to a Blood orange, further complicating the comparison.

In essence, the idiom suggests that some comparisons are inherently flawed because the items being compared are too different to yield meaningful conclusions.
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Re: LIFE INSURANCE
« Reply #1065 on: Yesterday at 11:02:03 AM »
IDK. It's a common expression.

OK. Replace apples (pomme) with potatoes (pomme de terre).

Do you also compare a savings account to an S&P mutual fund or ETF?

I may be wrong, but I imagine most uneducated consumers like myself (prior to spending hours online educating myself) view whole life policies primarily as death insurance with some living benefits in the form of cash value accumulation. Therefore, simply saying it's "apples and oranges" without explaining why, while focusing primarily on the death benefits, is not very helpful. These days, I view the death benefit in whole life policies as the smaller benefit or side benefit, and obviously, Indexed Universal Life and whole life policies are not comparable.

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Re: LIFE INSURANCE
« Reply #1066 on: Yesterday at 11:42:37 AM »
I may be wrong, but I imagine most uneducated consumers like myself (prior to spending hours online educating myself) view whole life policies primarily as death insurance with some living benefits in the form of cash value accumulation. Therefore, simply saying it's "apples and oranges" without explaining why, while focusing primarily on the death benefits, is not very helpful. These days, I view the death benefit in whole life policies as the smaller benefit or side benefit, and obviously, Indexed Universal Life and whole life policies are not comparable.

Most people comparing types of life insurance go to the term vs. whole life, for which renting vs buying is a decent analogy (though there are obviously some differences).

You are trying to compare permanent types of life insurance, and with that, you're also trying to compare products that are related to market returns (you initially asked about Variable, not about IUL) to products that have fixed returns and guarantees, which is why I balked.

If you were to compare UL to WL, I'd explain the differences in guarantees, mechanics of the products, etc.

But variable products have no place being compared to fixed products (and don't belong as a (primary, or even secondary) personal protection product IMHO.
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