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Re: A World Without Kim Jong Un??
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2020, 09:46:36 AM »
Words matter. They matter very much. But when you see someone who is reckless with his words, you tend to disregard what he says. "I love you" is possibly the most important phrase in human society. We live for those words. But when the neighborhood drunk yells them to everyone who passes by, we just ignore him, regardless of the importance of those words in every other setting.
When happens when you have 30-35% of the voting population hinge on every word a person says?
Just answer this question.  :)
What if Trump start spewing anti-Semitic remarks everyday. Do really believe most here that support him would keep on saying don't listen to what he says?
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Re: A World Without Kim Jong Un??
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2020, 09:57:13 AM »
When happens when you have 30-35% of the voting population hinge on every word a person says?
Just answer this question.  :)
What if Trump start spewing anti-Semitic remarks everyday. Do really believe most here that support him would keep on saying don't listen to what he says?

Absolutely not. It's a double standard that shouldn't be acceptable. You don't even need to go as far as him spewing anti-Semitic tropes. If he called a powerful anti-Semite "my friend" we'd have a huge uproar here.

The same standard that allows people to generalize about other races allows them to give Trump a pass. It's not hurting me right now, so it's someone else's problem.

That said, none of this has anything to do with NK or even Trump's handling of that country. We're absolutely no worse off with them than we've under any administration in the last 50 years.
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Re: A World Without Kim Jong Un??
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2020, 10:00:08 AM »
That said, none of this has anything to do with NK or even Trump's handling of that country. We're absolutely no worse off with them than we've under any administration in the last 50 years.
I don't think giving him standing on the world stage was a good thing but that is for another time.
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Re: A World Without Kim Jong Un??
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2020, 10:04:38 AM »
I don't think giving him standing on the world stage was a good thing but that is for another time.

Possibly. The argument can be made that Kim needed attention to feed his ego, and giving him this platform kept him for looking for the recognition in deadlier and more reckless ways.
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« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2020, 10:11:35 AM »
Back on topic, having his sister take over may be much worse. History has shown that female leaders tend to be more brutal than their male counterparts, not more benevolent. One theory behind it is they need to compensate in order to avoid being perceived as the weaker gender. By all accounts, the sister is much smarter than he is. Put those 2 things together and things may get much worse for the people still inside NK.
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Re: A World Without Kim Jong Un??
« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2020, 10:19:52 AM »
Ok he is a moron and we get that.
Now how about the question? How did his as you call it "negotiating tactic" of calling China's leader his friend work out with covid-19?
So it was a failed negotiating tactic. That is addressed by the second part too.
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Re: A World Without Kim Jong Un??
« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2020, 10:29:08 AM »
ETA: "pulling a Jew" - the immensely frustrating habit of answering a question with another question
Stereotyping or just the facts?  :)
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« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2020, 10:34:27 AM »
Stereotyping or just the facts?  :)

Indisputable facts. Anyone disputes it, I'll hit em with a "Source?"
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Re: A World Without Kim Jong Un??
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2020, 10:54:17 AM »
The one Kim brother who was different got taken out.
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Re: A World Without Kim Jong Un??
« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2020, 11:02:16 AM »
"Source?"
Supposedly Dear Abby, but the only reference I was able to find on Dear Abby was this one.

https://www.deseret.com/2008/4/1/20079524/dear-abby-only-a-fool-would-write-such-a-letter

Dear Abby: I have known this man I'll call "Jesse" for 11 years, but I feel like I really don't know him at all. I have asked many people this question, but no one can give me an answer. Why would a man always answer a question with a question? —Just Answer the Question

Dear Just: A person who always answers a question with a question is someone who wants to avoid giving a straight answer.
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Re: A World Without Kim Jong Un??
« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2020, 11:12:43 AM »
Dear Just: A person who always answers a question with a question is someone who wants to avoid giving a straight answer.
Ding ding ding we have a winner. I would add the answer is most likely one that won't support his/her position.
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« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2020, 11:39:51 AM »
Ding ding ding we have a winner. I would add the answer is most likely one that won't support his/her position.

I do the question-with-a-question thing a lot. I don't think you can say I have walked away from any discussion without supporting my position.
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Re: A World Without Kim Jong Un??
« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2020, 11:44:58 AM »
I do the question-with-a-question thing a lot. I don't think you can say I have walked away from any discussion without supporting my position.
There are always outliners.  ;)
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Re: A World Without Kim Jong Un??
« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2020, 11:52:10 AM »
There are always outliners.  ;)

Some are better than others  ;)

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Re: A World Without Kim Jong Un??
« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2020, 11:54:05 AM »
Some are better than others  ;)
Laquan McDonald (no google)?
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Laquan McDonald (no google)?

Don't think so. Just a slightly misshapen outline from Google images.
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Re: A World Without Kim Jong Un??
« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2020, 01:05:51 PM »
Didn’t realize the rumors were that he died, per this video from Friday (posted today)


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Re: A World Without Kim Jong Un??
« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2020, 01:56:17 PM »
The only difference here would be.

1. She doesn't have a history of being involved in any kind of brutality/planning etc.
2. She's a woman. While there have always been ruthless women, they are usually less violent then men. ( I know that I will be slammed by some for this..)
3. When KJU took over he was advised by his uncle/aunt along with many other rollovers from his father's team. I'm don't think anyone has so much power/sway in NK at this time. That gives her the power to make changes, IF she wants to.
4. The fact that Trump would be willing to make a deal, might be temping for a new leader as it gives credence and could solidify her power.


But overall she would probably do whatever it takes to make sure that she stays in power. That would mean keeping up the brutality..
Back on topic, having his sister take over may be much worse. History has shown that female leaders tend to be more brutal than their male counterparts, not more benevolent. One theory behind it is they need to compensate in order to avoid being perceived as the weaker gender. By all accounts, the sister is much smarter than he is. Put those 2 things together and things may get much worse for the people still inside NK.
You have plenty of company. Sexist remarks are common on this forum.  ;)
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Re: A World Without Kim Jong Un??
« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2020, 01:57:44 PM »
So far my company seems to be decent...
The fact is you will have a lot of company.  :)
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Re: A World Without Kim Jong Un??
« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2020, 02:03:25 PM »
The fact is you will have a lot of company.  :)

I don't believe my comment to be sexist...

So far my company seems to be decent...

But thank you.  :)
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