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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1880 on: June 30, 2015, 06:07:28 PM »

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1881 on: June 30, 2015, 06:26:10 PM »
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1882 on: June 30, 2015, 06:27:57 PM »
Are you sure about that?
Yes I told you a story , look back , driver had nj suspended license

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1883 on: June 30, 2015, 06:39:55 PM »
Yes I told you a story , look back , driver had nj suspended license
The state of NJ does not record traffic convictions for drivers from other states. The local traffic court does record the conviction on its internal record, however it is questionable how this conviction will hurt you. While a local NJ judge can suspend your NJ driving privileges, this is a very rare penalty, even for convictions of speeding 100 MPH. Your careless driving ticket is a considered a minor traffic infraction.

Unless you have a CDL, you should either plead it down yourself or just pay it.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1884 on: July 01, 2015, 09:33:05 AM »
Hi,
I received a driving violation for an illegal left. Court date is set for next week. I have a clean driving record and currently don't own a car - hence no drivers insurance right now. The ticket is for 2 points. I've been told to try to fight it to avoid higher future insurance premiums. I can't spare the time to go to court. Do all ticket lawyers charge flat fee? I was in contact with one who charges $130 to go to court for me. I know with parking tickets, there are folks out there who charge depending on outcome. Any advice on whether its worth paying a lawyer to fight it?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1885 on: July 01, 2015, 09:38:05 AM »
Hi,
I received a driving violation for an illegal left. Court date is set for next week. I have a clean driving record and currently don't own a car - hence no drivers insurance right now. The ticket is for 2 points. I've been told to try to fight it to avoid higher future insurance premiums. I can't spare the time to go to court. Do all ticket lawyers charge flat fee? I was in contact with one who charges $130 to go to court for me. I know with parking tickets, there are folks out there who charge depending on outcome. Any advice on whether its worth paying a lawyer to fight it?
I would say for $130 it's worth the try for a lawyer to fight it.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1886 on: July 01, 2015, 01:58:44 PM »
I have a texting ticket which is 5 points and just called a heimishe ticket fighting place, and the guy I spoke to told me that the court I'm assigned to, just by showing up they give me a plea bargain and just by showing up I can save $390 in lawyer's fees and accomplish the same as a lawyer.
Can I rely on him and just "show up" and "let the court do the rest" or does it sound too good to be true?
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1887 on: July 01, 2015, 02:36:53 PM »
I have a texting ticket which is 5 points and just called a heimishe ticket fighting place, and the guy I spoke to told me that the court I'm assigned to, just by showing up they give me a plea bargain and just by showing up I can save $390 in lawyer's fees and accomplish the same as a lawyer.
Can I rely on him and just "show up" and "let the court do the rest" or does it sound too good to be true?
Why not try to get a second opinion from another honest guy?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1888 on: July 01, 2015, 02:59:37 PM »
Why not try to get a second opinion from another honest guy?
I just realized he was right. It's not a court date, rather a meeting with prosecutor where he offers plea bargain.
I called the court and they told me this.
Nice to know that there are some people out there ready to give up $390 if the customer can do the same. Mi k'amcha yisroel
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1889 on: July 01, 2015, 03:15:31 PM »
I just realized he was right. It's not a court date, rather a meeting with prosecutor where he offers plea bargain.
I called the court and they told me this.
Nice to know that there are some people out there ready to give up $390 if the customer can do the same. Mi k'amcha yisroel
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1890 on: July 01, 2015, 03:46:59 PM »
I was a passenger in a car when this did happen to the driver being stopped in nj , with a ny license , it was in middle of the night with a full van with family and he was kind and just turned his back and let us go instead of arresting the driver , since there were no one in the car with license
But we don't know why he was suspended? Was it for an unpaid ticket in NJ or elsewhere?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1891 on: July 01, 2015, 03:51:41 PM »
But we don't know why he was suspended? Was it for an unpaid ticket in NJ or elsewhere?
It was for nj violations

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1892 on: July 01, 2015, 03:53:55 PM »
I mean in nj I will have 2 points and have to wait 3 years to get it off ,am I wrong? Something I'm missing here

When you say "points in NJ" you are not entirely correct. You do not get entered onto the regular registry of the NJ MVC. Therefore, even if you receive 100 points, the NJ MVC would not suspend you.

You would have an internal record of conviction in the NJ court system and therefore if you accumulate 100 points, it is likely that eventually a judge will suspend you for an ordinary traffic violation, when he checks your record at sentencing (which may also not happen). You would need to spend an incredible amount of money paying off your ticket before you reached the point where your license would be at risk.

Perhaps you have a third reason for not wanting the conviction? are you a politician perhaps? The you may want to hire a NJ attorney to fight it.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1893 on: July 01, 2015, 03:54:16 PM »
It was for nj violations
For not paying them perhaps?
Or maybe he had a DUI?
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1894 on: July 01, 2015, 03:55:34 PM »
Hi,
I received a driving violation for an illegal left. Court date is set for next week. I have a clean driving record and currently don't own a car - hence no drivers insurance right now. The ticket is for 2 points. I've been told to try to fight it to avoid higher future insurance premiums. I can't spare the time to go to court. Do all ticket lawyers charge flat fee? I was in contact with one who charges $130 to go to court for me. I know with parking tickets, there are folks out there who charge depending on outcome. Any advice on whether its worth paying a lawyer to fight it?
Most attorneys charge a flat fee or charge more for the guarantee. $130 is a great deal.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1895 on: July 01, 2015, 03:56:23 PM »
I have a texting ticket which is 5 points and just called a heimishe ticket fighting place, and the guy I spoke to told me that the court I'm assigned to, just by showing up they give me a plea bargain and just by showing up I can save $390 in lawyer's fees and accomplish the same as a lawyer.
Can I rely on him and just "show up" and "let the court do the rest" or does it sound too good to be true?
5 points to 0 is a hard deal to get in some courts. Which court is this?

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« Reply #1896 on: July 01, 2015, 03:57:32 PM »
@Hirshthg-are you saying that if someone gets points in NY (and has a NY license) and then takes a class to remove the points that it has no impact on insurance (only on suspension after 12 points)?
Yes, except that the course gives one a flat 10% discount.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1897 on: July 01, 2015, 06:01:42 PM »
Yes, except that the course gives one a flat 10% discount.
Ok so theoretically the increase in the rate can be offset by the class.

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« Reply #1898 on: July 02, 2015, 04:33:39 PM »
Ok so theoretically the increase in the rate can be offset by the class.
If the increase is exactly 10%, however the underwriting may be more complicated than that.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1899 on: July 03, 2015, 03:28:40 AM »
I was hoping I wouldnt have to post here but I got a ticket in south fallsberg going 49 in a 30 zone. Does anyone have recent experience plea bargaining there, or should I just hire a lawyer.