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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #440 on: May 10, 2024, 11:59:19 AM »
I'm not
...and I understand that.
If Israel gave those insurances and the US still withheld the bombs, then I too would turn on this admin like a rabid dog.  ;)
Let's not forget that Israel will get the bombs.
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #441 on: May 10, 2024, 12:22:29 PM »
...and I understand that.
If Israel gave those insurances and the US still withheld the bombs, then I too would turn on this admin like a rabid dog.  ;)
Let's not forget that Israel will get the bombs.

There's zero trust between the administrations. Assurances from either side don't mean much. I'm not in the same position as the US government and even I wouldn't trust Israel's word that they wouldn't be used in Gaza. Politicians can promise one thing, and military leaders can decide certain objectives need to be met or a certain opportunity can't be missed.
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #442 on: May 10, 2024, 12:35:25 PM »
There's zero trust between the administrations. Assurances from either side don't mean much. I'm not in the same position as the US government and even I wouldn't trust Israel's word that they wouldn't be used in Gaza. Politicians can promise one thing, and military leaders can decide certain objectives need to be met or a certain opportunity can't be missed.
Both sides new exactly how this was going to play out. Just as they both know if Israel every needs boots on the ground it will be ironclad. You can take that to the bank!!!
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #443 on: May 10, 2024, 01:44:24 PM »
Both sides new exactly how this was going to play out. Just as they both know if Israel every needs boots on the ground it will be ironclad. You can take that to the bank!!!

Given the state of banks these days, that's probably an accurate statement.
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #444 on: May 10, 2024, 01:53:36 PM »
Given the state of banks these days, that's probably an accurate statement.
I been making a killing on banks (CU's).  :)
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #445 on: May 10, 2024, 05:17:01 PM »
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #446 on: May 10, 2024, 05:35:41 PM »
This is getting out of hand.
Where else did you think he was headed?
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #447 on: May 10, 2024, 05:37:42 PM »
Where else did you think he was headed?
They are both acting like the other side is Hamas. The damage is going to go way beyond this admin.
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #448 on: May 10, 2024, 05:40:10 PM »
They are both acting like the other side is Hamas. The damage is going to go way beyond this admin.
Not sure what you were trying to say
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #449 on: May 10, 2024, 05:42:06 PM »
This is getting out of hand.

"We can't say if they violated the international laws of war, but we can be pretty certain our weapons were involved in acts which violated those laws." It can't be both...
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #450 on: May 10, 2024, 05:42:20 PM »
This is getting out of hand.
I wonder when they will evaluate the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq at this level?
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #451 on: May 10, 2024, 05:43:45 PM »
I wonder when they will evaluate the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq at this level?
Why would they do that? That is not how these things work, and we all know that.
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #452 on: May 10, 2024, 05:44:58 PM »
Not sure what you were trying to say
They need to come to an agreement and get on the same page.
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #453 on: May 10, 2024, 05:45:28 PM »
They need to come to an agreement and get on the same page.
That cannot happen while he is trying to appease the fringes of his party
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #454 on: May 10, 2024, 05:45:46 PM »
"We can't say if they violated the international laws of war, but we can be pretty certain our weapons were involved in acts which violated those laws." It can't be both...
Is that what they said?
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #455 on: May 10, 2024, 05:46:51 PM »
That cannot happen while he is trying to appease the fringes of his party
This talking point is pure BS. This war is a loser for Biden no matter which side someone thinks he is on.
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #456 on: May 10, 2024, 05:49:41 PM »
This talking point is pure BS. This war is a loser for Biden no matter which side someone thinks he is on.
Good thing he delayed Rafah by 3 months...
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #457 on: May 10, 2024, 05:53:57 PM »
Good thing he delayed Rafah by 3 months...
Did he or is everyone buying the talking points? Could it be Israel was spread too thin? That boarding crossing area was crucial to take over. Why didn't they take Rafah at the beginning.

All I have seen this war so far is Israel doing what they want when they want. Biden tried to put pressure, but it has failed.
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #458 on: May 10, 2024, 05:54:49 PM »
This talking point is pure BS. This war is a loser for Biden no matter which side someone thinks he is on.

That is for sure. Now he is doing his best to ensure that everyone hates him. That doesn't mean that he isn't currently capitulating to the fringes.
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #459 on: May 10, 2024, 05:55:40 PM »
Biden tried to put pressure, but it has failed.

Restore international respect.
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