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Related DDF Threads:
-Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
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-Maui Master Thread
-Oahu Master Thread


Before you go:

How long should I go for?
You could spend 10 years on Kauai and not get your fill. That being said, the bare minimum to enjoy your stay is 4 days on the ground. A week is ideal.

It's possible to do a short trip by leaving early Sunday morning, getting there in the afternoon, and then leaving Thursday night and being back home for shabbos.

Do I need a guide book?
Very definitely. Sure you could find most info online, but nothing compares to a good, written-by-a-local, guide book. Kauai Revealed is by far the best option, and will possibly be the best $16 you spent on your trip.

What about Shabbos?
Some authorities hold that there's a dateline issue with Shabbos.
The local communities keep shabbos on Saturday.
Definitely ask your LOR before you go - some hold simply that Shabbos is on Saturday, some hold that you have to keep Shabbos on both Friday and Saturday, and some hold that you have to keep D'oreisas on Friday and full Shabbos on Saturday.

If you must keep 2 days, remember that there are many questions that could come up (such as when to light Shabbos candles, how to warm up food, etc.), so make sure to discuss it all with your LOR.

There have been books written about the Chabad opinion of keeping shabbos only on Saturday. Rabbi Aharon Dovid Gancz gives an absolutely fascinating pilpul on the topic, if you get a chance to attend one please record it (with permission) and upload the video online.


Getting there and getting around:

Air:
The main airport is in Lihue, and is designated LIH.
You could fly directly from the mainland to LIH from
DEN (UA)
LAX (AA, DL, HA, UA)
OAK (AS, HA)
SAN (AS)
SEA (AS)
SFO (UA)
SJC (AS)
PDX (AS)
PHX (US)
YVR (WestJet)

There are no direct flights from the East coast, so you will stop in one of these cities.
Alternately, you could fly directly to Honolulu (HNL) and continue to LIH from there.

Hawaiian, Go, and Island Air fly interisland to LIH from HNL and OGG. There are no direct flights between LIH and the Big Island (ITO/KOA).

You can also use 5K AA or, 6k UA, or 7.5k HA miles each way to fly interisland. United allows a free stopover on a round-trip, so for instance you can fly HNL-LIH-OGG-HNL for just 12K miles.

Car:
A car is necessary on Kauai. All major companies have branches, mostly at the airport. There are also some local companies.

National has Executive Aisle/Selection at the airport, but Hertz doesn't have Gold Choice. Avis also has a desk at the Grand Hyatt Kauai. Check out www.discounthawaiicarrental.com - they book from the major brands, and are worth a try.

There's nothing like a convertible on Kauai, but a 4WD is better (sometimes even necessary) for certain places such as Polihale Beach or Milolii Ridge Road. Taking a convertible for most of your stay and a 4WD for a day or two is a good idea.


Where to stay:

There are 3 major areas where to stay. The South side is drier so good weather is more or less guaranteed. The North side is far prettier, with sheer cliffs and a backdrop of lovely green mountains. However, the weather in winter could be rainy and it can be buggy as well.
The rain typically doesn't last long, and is usually accompanied by numerous rainbows, so it's usually not too bad. However, it's something you should take into account. The East side has the cities of Lihue and Kapa'a, alone with countless hotels and resorts. This area isn't as beautiful and the North or South side.

When choosing an area also consider how far it is to your chosen activities, not just the weather, For example, it takes about an hour from the Grand Hyatt to Waimea Canyon, but over two hours from the St. Regis.  On the other hand the St. Regis is much closer to north shore activities.

Here are some places that are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaMore InfoComments
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Grand Hyatt KauaiSouth sideWebsiteGenerally considered to be the top hotel on Kauai, and countless DDF'ers have stayed there. The weather is perfect year-round, it's right by Poipu beach, and you drive through an awesome tree tunnel to get there. There are countless pools and exotic birds all around.
St. Regis PrincevilleNorth sideWebsiteAnother beautiful hotel, this is an SPG category 7. The setting of the SRP is absolutely breathtaking, with the ocean crashing on the cliffs below and the waterfall-filled mountains in the background. The views from the rooms are unparalleled, but most rooms have no balconies.
Westin Princeville Ocean Resort Villas North sideWebsiteSPG category 6.
Sheraton Kauai Resort South sideWebsiteSPG category 5.
"Get your own place"AnywhereWebsiteThere are countless condos, timeshares, or villas available to rent on the island. The advantages are that you get more for your money - a couple of bedrooms, living/dining rooms, and a full kitchen. There will usually be a pool, sometimes even a private one. Additionally, they're often cheaper than a hotel. There are many places to find them -
 HomeAway Kauai
VRBO Kauai
Airbnb Kauai, etc.


What to do:

Beaches:
There are countless beaches on Kauai, and all are public. Most offer amazing snorkeling. The East and South side beaches are safe for swimming / snorkeling year round, while some North and West beaches could be deadly in winter. Here are some popular ones, in no particular order:

NameAreaComments
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PoipuSouth sideThis beach is right by the GHK. Full amenities (lifeguard, showers, etc.). Snorkeling is amazing here, especially in the morning. Sea turtles and the critically endangered Hawaiian monk seal are commonly seen here. Gorgeous sunsets.
Ke'eNorth sideThis beach is the gateway to the famous Kalalau Trail. The view from here is amazing, looking out over the majestic Na Pali cliffs. Great snorkeling, with a large fringing reef. This beach could be deadly winter, when 20-foot waves crash onto shore. However, at times it's perfectly calm. Use common sense. The beach is part of Hāʻena State Park
TunnelsNorth sideBeautiful crescent beach, with a lovely view of "Puff the Magic Dragon" mountain. Great snorkeling, and beautiful sunrises. May be dangerous in winter.
LumahaiNorth sideVery pretty beach, where they filmed South Pacific. Extremely dangerous winter.
PolihaleWest side17 solid miles of uninterrupted sand. Fairly remote, and accessible only via dirt and sand road, so 4WD is preferred. Unswimmable most of the year, but the area called Queens Pond is safe all year round. Since it's so huge, you could easily find a secluded spot. Great view of the south side of Na Pali, with amazing sunsets.
Queen's BathNorth sideThis is a rocky beach by the cliffs under Princeville. Very cool during the summer, when you could swim in a rock pool with the fish, but absolutely deadly during the winter (people die there all the time).
KalalauNorth sideOne of the most beautiful beaches in the entire world. Unfortunately, it's only accessible via one of the most difficult and most dangerous hikes in the world, the Kalalau Trail.
HonopūNorth sideAnother one of the top ten beaches in the world. The only way to get there is by swimming - from Kalalau beach :o!
Hanalei BayNorth sideA beautiful crescent beach with wonderful views. Mediocre snorkeling, but safe even in the winter. Very predictable waves, so this is the top spot for learning to surf or paddle. Breathtaking sunrises and sunsets.
SecretNorth sideRelatively secluded beach, and needs a bit of a hike to get there.
LydgateEast sideA fully protected beach, with pretty good snorkeling. Great for little kids, but is usually very busy.
NawiliwiliEast sideBoring beach, but the park of the the side is a nice place to stop for lunch and watch the kitesurfers.
Kapa'aEast sideAnother relatively boring beach, but a nice place to have lunch if you're in Kapa'a.


Hiking:
There are a tremendous amount of great hikes on Kauai. Check the Kauai Revealed book for detailed info on all of them, with maps, difficulty ratings, etc. These are just a few which are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaComments
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Hike 1Area 1Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hike 2Area 2Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.


Other activities:

ActivityComments
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Helicopter toursEasily the most expensive activity on Kauai, and easily the most amazing. You get to see otherwise inaccessible places - among others, you fly into Waimea Canyon, along the stunning Na Pali coast, and into the crater of the extinct Mount Waiʻaleʻale, now the wettest place on earth. It's an experience that could simply not be matched. Blue Hawaiian is the most popular and usually recommended. Jack Harter also flies amazing doors-off tours, which are wet, windy, and exhilirating :D.
Powered hang glidingThis is a unique flight lesson (counts a flying time for a pilot's license) in what's basically a motorized tricycle with wings. Supposed to be tremendous fun. Offered by Birds in Paradise.
Waimea CanyonLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Kalalau Valley overlookLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hanalei Valley overlook
Kayaking
Biking
ATVing
Horseback riding
Ziplining
Cruises
4 Wheel Driving


Shopping:
  • Costco in Lihue has some kosher food, as well as the cheapest gas on the island
  • Wal-Mart, also in Lihue, also has some kosher food

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2640 on: June 16, 2017, 10:59:03 AM »
I don't recall offhand, but definitely not a week's worth.
I fit a Hawaii week's worth (sun-thur) of dinners in it, plus maybe we had 1 or 2 for lunch, as we normally don't buy the meals for lunches.

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« Reply #2641 on: June 16, 2017, 11:00:05 AM »
I fit a Hawaii week's worth (sun-thur) of dinners in it, plus maybe we had 1 or 2 for lunch, as we normally don't buy the meals for lunches.
Sun-Thu is not a week last time I checked.
And did you travel with kids?
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2642 on: June 16, 2017, 11:36:43 AM »
I knew I'd rue the day I introduced the GHK to the frum world :(

I wonder what happened that caused that?
it was inevitable. The problem is that some kosher travelers feel entitled and do not realize the hotel is doing them a favor by doing this. A big part of the hotels revenue is food and beverage so by them going thes they are basically screwing themselves over. And people still feel entitled. I'm surprised it lasted this long to be honest.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2643 on: June 16, 2017, 02:30:07 PM »
Sad to hear - was hoping to make it to GHK in the future. Honestly, with most of the bookings coming from points, I guess the hotel doesn't view it as much of a loss.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2644 on: June 16, 2017, 03:09:27 PM »
Sun-Thu is not a week last time I checked.
And did you travel with kids?
It is for many people in Hawaii, plus we had extra room in the fridge. I meant to say dinner for 2 people, but even more so - POM meals for kids?

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« Reply #2646 on: June 16, 2017, 03:14:13 PM »
It is for many people in Hawaii, plus we had extra room in the fridge. I meant to say dinner for 2 people, but even more so - POM meals for kids?
So you're talking about 8 dinners. Yes, there's probably going to be space for 8 POM meals.
For an actual week as defined by Merriam-Webster, I think not.

You dont feed your kids??
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2647 on: June 16, 2017, 03:25:02 PM »
So you're talking about 8 dinners. Yes, there's probably going to be space for 8 POM meals.
For an actual week as defined by Merriam-Webster, I think not.
ALOL

You dont feed your kids??

Meals leave the fridge as you eat them. You won't need to keep your first night's dinner in the fridge, so now you just need to fit in 12. And not even because you don't really need 2 meals each night, as you can save your leftovers. But we're not getting into too many specifics here are we? Let's all just get over them not allowing the use of the fridge... If there was a restaurant in LIH, we'd all go there, so... just buy the GHK food or stay at another hotel.

I guess we'll have to wait and see when my kid grows up, but I can't imagine buying her POM meals. Heck, I stopped getting them for myself and brought sandwiches, soups and microwavable foods on my last trip.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2648 on: June 16, 2017, 04:37:24 PM »
Meals leave the fridge as you eat them. You won't need to keep your first night's dinner in the fridge, so now you just need to fit in 12. And not even because you don't really need 2 meals each night, as you can save your leftovers. But we're not getting into too many specifics here are we? Let's all just get over them not allowing the use of the fridge... If there was a restaurant in LIH, we'd all go there, so... just buy the GHK food or stay at another hotel.

I guess we'll have to wait and see when my kid grows up, but I can't imagine buying her POM meals. Heck, I stopped getting them for myself and brought sandwiches, soups and microwavable foods on my last trip.
Yup, hey kids, I'm just going to enjoy this shnitzel from POM, hope you don't mind cereal for dinner  ::)

Also, Shabbos takes up a lot of space. In the past Challos and much more would wait in the freezer until Friday. I don't go on vacation with the family to subsist on tuna, but if that works for you, great.

Also, this is all much tougher for C"Y keepers.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2649 on: June 16, 2017, 04:40:50 PM »
Hi Matt and Keith,

I first stayed in the GH Kauai for my honeymoon 9 years ago and have been back many times since then.

I've always enjoyed how accommodating the hotel was for our kosher needs and I shared that with readers on my DansDeals blog. For our honeyooon we spent a week each on Oahu, Maui, Kauai, and Hawaii Island, and Chef Smith took great care of us in the Hyatt Regency back then and he has several times at the Grand Hyatt Kauai as well since then. My wife made a month's worth of frozen kosher food that we brought along for the ride and every hotel was wonderful about accommodating those meals.

Our experiences with Chef Smith and the Hyatt resorts then led me to earn Diamond status and now Globalist status in the program.

That's why I was so surprised to hear from a few readers who have been told that the hotel will no longer store frozen food for kosher guests. While the stocked meals from Oahu Kosher are a nice option to try during the stay, it's not a practical option for a family to eat for all of the meals on a week long stay. Frankly, the meals just aren't of high enough quality to eat for every meal.

Is this policy change true? I'd love to hear some of the background that went into why such a change was needed?

Mahalo,
Daniel Eleff

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Aloha Daniel,
 
Thank you for reaching out and I am glad you did, so I may clarify the modifications to our policy.
Unfortunately allowing guest to bring in outside frozen foods has become too problematic for us for several reasons.
Our corporation follows strict federal and state food safety regulations and accepting food from unapproved purveyors is no longer something that we are allowed to do. We also have found that at times we simply do not have enough space to store these foods. During the fall of last year we had eight different suitcases filled with frozen food in our butcher freezer (which is not a kosher freezer) and it left us with no freezer space.
Too often as well guests were showing up with food that was in the “Danger Zone” which is 41 degrees to 135 degrees. We had to let the guests know that the food should be thrown out and we simply would not accept it as it could potentially be unsafe for human consumption. Because of these major factors we have decided we can no longer accept outside food in to our Kitchen facility. This has nothing to do with kosher as this is a policy with any guest requesting to use our facility to store personal foods.
 
Daniel we truly appreciate your business and I would like to point out that you may still bring in your own kosher food we just cannot store it in our kitchen facility. Shelf stable food can be stored in your guest room as well as a small amount of cold food that can be stored in our mini refrigerators that you can have placed in your guest room. In addition we do still offer kosher food from Oahu kosher along with some other regular menu items that we always offer such as kosher bagels, smoked salmon, yogurts etc.
 
Please let me know if you would like to discuss further.
 
Sincerely,
 
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2651 on: June 16, 2017, 05:27:33 PM »
Does there breakfast buffet offer many options for kosher?

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2652 on: June 18, 2017, 01:21:14 AM »
Only option I can think of is to take a freezer bag like the polar bear & refill it with ice every day,

though I do think this new policy will keep people away

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« Reply #2653 on: June 18, 2017, 01:23:54 AM »
Only option I can think of is to take a freezer bag like the polar bear & refill it with ice every day,

though I do think this new policy will keep people away
Or just stay in a hotel where they still want our business.
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« Reply #2654 on: June 18, 2017, 07:15:29 AM »
Or just stay in a hotel where they still want our business.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2655 on: June 18, 2017, 08:18:52 AM »
Only option I can think of is to take a freezer bag like the polar bear & refill it with ice every day,

though I do think this new policy will keep people away
Problem with this is food does not stay frozen for a week.  By the time you get around to eating it, it's been defrosted for a long time, and may not be safe.

This is a bit out there, but a 1.1 cubic foot freezer can be had for under $175 on Amazon, and is small enough to be checked in its original packaging.  The one I was looking at (gotta explore all options) also has a lock.  One caveat:  it weighs over 40 lbs shipped, so not much room for food.  I wonder if GHK would be willing to rent out mini freezers, if someone "donated" them.  Walmart has a version for under $100, and can be picked up at their Lihue store (no lock, though).

(Lock would keep it closed during transit, attach one key, so TSA can open.)

Or just stay in a hotel where they still want our business.
It is possible, as the email says, that they are no longer allowed to accept packages to put in their freezer.  We were told the same thing last summer at a different hotel in Hawaii.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2656 on: June 18, 2017, 11:45:17 AM »
Are there any good ways to get discounted tickets with Capt Andy's tours?  TIA
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2657 on: June 19, 2017, 07:38:17 PM »

Looking for kosher toaster, crock-pot and ANY Kosher kitchen supplies hand-me-downs

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« Reply #2658 on: June 19, 2017, 07:45:51 PM »
Problem with this is food does not stay frozen for a week.  By the time you get around to eating it, it's been defrosted for a long time, and may not be safe.

This is a bit out there, but a 1.1 cubic foot freezer can be had for under $175 on Amazon, and is small enough to be checked in its original packaging.  The one I was looking at (gotta explore all options) also has a lock.  One caveat:  it weighs over 40 lbs shipped, so not much room for food.  I wonder if GHK would be willing to rent out mini freezers, if someone "donated" them.  Walmart has a version for under $100, and can be picked up at their Lihue store (no lock, though).

(Lock would keep it closed during transit, attach one key, so TSA can open.)
It is possible, as the email says, that they are no longer allowed to accept packages to put in their freezer.  We were told the same thing last summer at a different hotel in Hawaii.
we arrived in Maui from NY, our meals were frozen solid when we got there and did not defrost in our mini fridge. Not the biggest deal if your only 2 ppl

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2659 on: June 19, 2017, 09:19:53 PM »
we arrived in Maui from NY, our meals were frozen solid when we got there and did not defrost in our mini fridge. Not the biggest deal if your only 2 ppl
I personally would not rely on food not defrosting in the fridge, and we travel with our kids.  In any event, another solution is dry ice.  On Kauai, Gaspro/Airgas (Airgas.com) is in Lihue, open 7-4, $4/lb.  Expect about 8 lbs to sublimate per day.  A $100 freezer may be more cost effective, depending on length of stay.
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