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Related DDF Threads:
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Before you go:

How long should I go for?
You could spend 10 years on Kauai and not get your fill. That being said, the bare minimum to enjoy your stay is 4 days on the ground. A week is ideal.

It's possible to do a short trip by leaving early Sunday morning, getting there in the afternoon, and then leaving Thursday night and being back home for shabbos.

Do I need a guide book?
Very definitely. Sure you could find most info online, but nothing compares to a good, written-by-a-local, guide book. Kauai Revealed is by far the best option, and will possibly be the best $16 you spent on your trip.

What about Shabbos?
Some authorities hold that there's a dateline issue with Shabbos.
The local communities keep shabbos on Saturday.
Definitely ask your LOR before you go - some hold simply that Shabbos is on Saturday, some hold that you have to keep Shabbos on both Friday and Saturday, and some hold that you have to keep D'oreisas on Friday and full Shabbos on Saturday.

If you must keep 2 days, remember that there are many questions that could come up (such as when to light Shabbos candles, how to warm up food, etc.), so make sure to discuss it all with your LOR.

There have been books written about the Chabad opinion of keeping shabbos only on Saturday. Rabbi Aharon Dovid Gancz gives an absolutely fascinating pilpul on the topic, if you get a chance to attend one please record it (with permission) and upload the video online.


Getting there and getting around:

Air:
The main airport is in Lihue, and is designated LIH.
You could fly directly from the mainland to LIH from
DEN (UA)
LAX (AA, DL, HA, UA)
OAK (AS, HA)
SAN (AS)
SEA (AS)
SFO (UA)
SJC (AS)
PDX (AS)
PHX (US)
YVR (WestJet)

There are no direct flights from the East coast, so you will stop in one of these cities.
Alternately, you could fly directly to Honolulu (HNL) and continue to LIH from there.

Hawaiian, Go, and Island Air fly interisland to LIH from HNL and OGG. There are no direct flights between LIH and the Big Island (ITO/KOA).

You can also use 5K AA or, 6k UA, or 7.5k HA miles each way to fly interisland. United allows a free stopover on a round-trip, so for instance you can fly HNL-LIH-OGG-HNL for just 12K miles.

Car:
A car is necessary on Kauai. All major companies have branches, mostly at the airport. There are also some local companies.

National has Executive Aisle/Selection at the airport, but Hertz doesn't have Gold Choice. Avis also has a desk at the Grand Hyatt Kauai. Check out www.discounthawaiicarrental.com - they book from the major brands, and are worth a try.

There's nothing like a convertible on Kauai, but a 4WD is better (sometimes even necessary) for certain places such as Polihale Beach or Milolii Ridge Road. Taking a convertible for most of your stay and a 4WD for a day or two is a good idea.


Where to stay:

There are 3 major areas where to stay. The South side is drier so good weather is more or less guaranteed. The North side is far prettier, with sheer cliffs and a backdrop of lovely green mountains. However, the weather in winter could be rainy and it can be buggy as well.
The rain typically doesn't last long, and is usually accompanied by numerous rainbows, so it's usually not too bad. However, it's something you should take into account. The East side has the cities of Lihue and Kapa'a, alone with countless hotels and resorts. This area isn't as beautiful and the North or South side.

When choosing an area also consider how far it is to your chosen activities, not just the weather, For example, it takes about an hour from the Grand Hyatt to Waimea Canyon, but over two hours from the St. Regis.  On the other hand the St. Regis is much closer to north shore activities.

Here are some places that are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaMore InfoComments
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Grand Hyatt KauaiSouth sideWebsiteGenerally considered to be the top hotel on Kauai, and countless DDF'ers have stayed there. The weather is perfect year-round, it's right by Poipu beach, and you drive through an awesome tree tunnel to get there. There are countless pools and exotic birds all around.
St. Regis PrincevilleNorth sideWebsiteAnother beautiful hotel, this is an SPG category 7. The setting of the SRP is absolutely breathtaking, with the ocean crashing on the cliffs below and the waterfall-filled mountains in the background. The views from the rooms are unparalleled, but most rooms have no balconies.
Westin Princeville Ocean Resort Villas North sideWebsiteSPG category 6.
Sheraton Kauai Resort South sideWebsiteSPG category 5.
"Get your own place"AnywhereWebsiteThere are countless condos, timeshares, or villas available to rent on the island. The advantages are that you get more for your money - a couple of bedrooms, living/dining rooms, and a full kitchen. There will usually be a pool, sometimes even a private one. Additionally, they're often cheaper than a hotel. There are many places to find them -
 HomeAway Kauai
VRBO Kauai
Airbnb Kauai, etc.


What to do:

Beaches:
There are countless beaches on Kauai, and all are public. Most offer amazing snorkeling. The East and South side beaches are safe for swimming / snorkeling year round, while some North and West beaches could be deadly in winter. Here are some popular ones, in no particular order:

NameAreaComments
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PoipuSouth sideThis beach is right by the GHK. Full amenities (lifeguard, showers, etc.). Snorkeling is amazing here, especially in the morning. Sea turtles and the critically endangered Hawaiian monk seal are commonly seen here. Gorgeous sunsets.
Ke'eNorth sideThis beach is the gateway to the famous Kalalau Trail. The view from here is amazing, looking out over the majestic Na Pali cliffs. Great snorkeling, with a large fringing reef. This beach could be deadly winter, when 20-foot waves crash onto shore. However, at times it's perfectly calm. Use common sense. The beach is part of Hāʻena State Park
TunnelsNorth sideBeautiful crescent beach, with a lovely view of "Puff the Magic Dragon" mountain. Great snorkeling, and beautiful sunrises. May be dangerous in winter.
LumahaiNorth sideVery pretty beach, where they filmed South Pacific. Extremely dangerous winter.
PolihaleWest side17 solid miles of uninterrupted sand. Fairly remote, and accessible only via dirt and sand road, so 4WD is preferred. Unswimmable most of the year, but the area called Queens Pond is safe all year round. Since it's so huge, you could easily find a secluded spot. Great view of the south side of Na Pali, with amazing sunsets.
Queen's BathNorth sideThis is a rocky beach by the cliffs under Princeville. Very cool during the summer, when you could swim in a rock pool with the fish, but absolutely deadly during the winter (people die there all the time).
KalalauNorth sideOne of the most beautiful beaches in the entire world. Unfortunately, it's only accessible via one of the most difficult and most dangerous hikes in the world, the Kalalau Trail.
HonopūNorth sideAnother one of the top ten beaches in the world. The only way to get there is by swimming - from Kalalau beach :o!
Hanalei BayNorth sideA beautiful crescent beach with wonderful views. Mediocre snorkeling, but safe even in the winter. Very predictable waves, so this is the top spot for learning to surf or paddle. Breathtaking sunrises and sunsets.
SecretNorth sideRelatively secluded beach, and needs a bit of a hike to get there.
LydgateEast sideA fully protected beach, with pretty good snorkeling. Great for little kids, but is usually very busy.
NawiliwiliEast sideBoring beach, but the park of the the side is a nice place to stop for lunch and watch the kitesurfers.
Kapa'aEast sideAnother relatively boring beach, but a nice place to have lunch if you're in Kapa'a.


Hiking:
There are a tremendous amount of great hikes on Kauai. Check the Kauai Revealed book for detailed info on all of them, with maps, difficulty ratings, etc. These are just a few which are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaComments
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Hike 2Area 2Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.


Other activities:

ActivityComments
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Helicopter toursEasily the most expensive activity on Kauai, and easily the most amazing. You get to see otherwise inaccessible places - among others, you fly into Waimea Canyon, along the stunning Na Pali coast, and into the crater of the extinct Mount Waiʻaleʻale, now the wettest place on earth. It's an experience that could simply not be matched. Blue Hawaiian is the most popular and usually recommended. Jack Harter also flies amazing doors-off tours, which are wet, windy, and exhilirating :D.
Powered hang glidingThis is a unique flight lesson (counts a flying time for a pilot's license) in what's basically a motorized tricycle with wings. Supposed to be tremendous fun. Offered by Birds in Paradise.
Waimea CanyonLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Kalalau Valley overlookLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hanalei Valley overlook
Kayaking
Biking
ATVing
Horseback riding
Ziplining
Cruises
4 Wheel Driving


Shopping:
  • Costco in Lihue has some kosher food, as well as the cheapest gas on the island
  • Wal-Mart, also in Lihue, also has some kosher food

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3000 on: December 19, 2021, 10:39:24 PM »
Hi,

Does anyone know if there are any boat tours that leave from the north shore and include a beach landing for  the Na Pali coast tours? Preferably not a zodiac.

Also, has anyone navigated the new permit system for Ha'ena State Park? Is there really no option but to book your permits exactly 30 days in advance and have your exact time slot planned out? Doesn't sound like a proper Hawaii vacation to be so scheduled:(

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3001 on: December 19, 2021, 10:47:55 PM »
Does anyone know if there are any boat tours that leave from the north shore and include a beach landing for  the Na Pali coast tours? Preferably not a zodiac.
Based on my research there aren't any regularly scheduled Na Pali boat tours from the North in winter.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3002 on: December 20, 2021, 12:04:46 AM »
Hi,

Does anyone know if there are any boat tours that leave from the north shore and include a beach landing for  the Na Pali coast tours? Preferably not a zodiac.

Also, has anyone navigated the new permit system for Ha'ena State Park? Is there really no option but to book your permits exactly 30 days in advance and have your exact time slot planned out? Doesn't sound like a proper Hawaii vacation to be so scheduled:(

Thanks in advance.
yes and when i went the parking lot was 85 percent empty as very few people actually used their permits. I just booked for the whole day ,while costing some extra money it did give me flexibility. One recommendation would be to go in the afternoon -they have shuttles going in the morning for those that couldn't get parking reservations and it is significantly more crowded in the morning .we went in the afternoon and for the first half hour there was a steady stream of people going the other way and after that we met maybe 2 people the whole time we were there and we had the beach to ourselves the entire time we were at the beach.
Keep in mind the highway is closed part of the day so check that out before planning your itinerary.
Also I was told by someone the they came to the parking lot without permits and tipped the attendant 20 dollars and was let in but I assume ymmv

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3003 on: January 07, 2022, 11:59:48 AM »
Any ideas of activities things to do with an infant and kids ages 6-13? I was thinking about Kauai Backcountry Adventures but the Revealed book gave it a pretty bad review so it doesn’t seem worth it for the price. It also seems like the whole North Shore is off limits in January…

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3004 on: January 07, 2022, 12:38:02 PM »
Off limits as far as what?

General sightseeing, hiking, beaches - perfectly fine. Will it rain? Probably. For a few minutes. Just like anywhere else in Hawaii.

Swimming and snorkeling? Depends on the exact beach and conditions. I've seen from mirror-flat to 20-foot waves.

Na Pali boat tours? Yeah, probably not a good idea.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3005 on: January 07, 2022, 01:00:43 PM »
Off limits as far as what?

General sightseeing, hiking, beaches - perfectly fine. Will it rain? Probably. For a few minutes. Just like anywhere else in Hawaii.

Swimming and snorkeling? Depends on the exact beach and conditions. I've seen from mirror-flat to 20-foot waves.

Na Pali boat tours? Yeah, probably not a good idea.

We can’t do more then a 5-10 min hike. Can you recommend one that is worth going to?
 I meant off limits in terms of swimming and snorkeling. We are staying at the GHK so I don’t know if it’s worth it to drive all the way to the North Shore for a beach that will probably not be swimmable.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3006 on: January 07, 2022, 01:09:22 PM »
We can’t do more then a 5-10 min hike. Can you recommend one that is worth going to?
 I meant off limits in terms of swimming and snorkeling. We are staying at the GHK so I don’t know if it’s worth it to drive all the way to the North Shore for a beach that will probably not be swimmable.

There's still a million things to see on the north shore that absolutely make it worth spending a day there, regardless of the season. Just the sunset from Ke'e Beach is worth it.

Some easy hikes/walks: Tunnels Beach, Ke'e Beach, Kīlauea Point, Hanalei National Wildlife Refuge (just park the car and walk along the river), and many more I can't remember off the top of my head.   
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3007 on: January 07, 2022, 01:13:53 PM »
There's still a million things to see on the north shore that absolutely make it worth spending a day there, regardless of the season. Just the sunset from Ke'e Beach is worth it.

Some easy hikes/walks: Tunnels Beach, Ke'e Beach, Kīlauea Point, Hanalei National Wildlife Refuge (just park the car and walk along the river), and many more I can't remember off the top of my head.   

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3008 on: January 12, 2022, 05:08:25 PM »
Has anyone stayed at the GHK standard room with two queen size beds and pull out sofa? I am just wondering if the sofa bed is a full size or twin size.

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« Reply #3009 on: January 16, 2022, 06:42:21 PM »
Has anyone stayed at the GHK standard room with two queen size beds and pull out sofa? I am just wondering if the sofa bed is a full size or twin size.

Yes, if I recall correctly from 5 years ago, it was a full/king, not a twin

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« Reply #3010 on: January 16, 2022, 08:24:59 PM »
Yes, if I recall correctly from 5 years ago, it was a full/king, not a twin

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3011 on: January 18, 2022, 07:05:54 PM »
I put together an itinerary but I’m not sure if it makes sense timing wise, any advice would be appreciated.
Sunday- arrive at LIH 10 pm
Monday-North shore stops:
Queens bath
Hideaways beach
Tunnels beach (snorkeling)
Ke’e beach for sunset (are permits needed for parking?)
Tuesday-Blue Hawaiian helicopter tour (10am tour)
East shore stops:
Opaeka’a Falls Lookout
Wailua falls
Walmart
Lydgate beach park/kamalani playground
Wednesday-
Glass beach
Salt pond beach park
National tropical botanical gardens (allerton garden)
Shipwreck beach
Po’ipu beach park (snorkel)
Spouting horn beach park (sunset)
Thursday-Ho’opi’i falls hike
Pick up food from LIH for shabbos
Friday-hang out at GHK grounds
Sunday-Waimea canyon lookout
Pu’u o Kila lookout
Queens pond
Barking sands
Polihale (sunset)

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« Reply #3012 on: January 18, 2022, 07:56:23 PM »
I don't believe Queens bath is too safe in winter.

IIRC, Allerton is a lot of walking, depending on your tour.
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« Reply #3013 on: January 18, 2022, 08:12:55 PM »
I put together an itinerary but I’m not sure if it makes sense timing wise, any advice would be appreciated.
Polihale (sunset)
For Polihale best if you have a high clearance vehicle, and if you want to be comfortable and not have the way take 30 minutes each way, get a jeep.
I did it with a small sedan and it was painful and took forever. My undercarriage hit a few bumps along the way and the car was groaning wearily by the time I made it back on the road. (Thankfully the rental didn't say boo).

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« Reply #3014 on: January 18, 2022, 09:42:59 PM »
For Polihale best if you have a high clearance vehicle, and if you want to be comfortable and not have the way take 30 minutes each way, get a jeep.
I did it with a small sedan and it was painful and took forever. My undercarriage hit a few bumps along the way and the car was groaning wearily by the time I made it back on the road. (Thankfully the rental didn't say boo).

We are renting a minivan, hopefully it will be okay.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3015 on: January 18, 2022, 10:25:34 PM »
I put together an itinerary but I’m not sure if it makes sense timing wise, any advice would be appreciated.
Sunday- arrive at LIH 10 pm
Monday-North shore stops:
Queens bath
Hideaways beach
Tunnels beach (snorkeling)
Ke’e beach for sunset (are permits needed for parking?)
Tuesday-Blue Hawaiian helicopter tour (10am tour)
East shore stops:
Opaeka’a Falls Lookout
Wailua falls
Walmart
Lydgate beach park/kamalani playground
Wednesday-
Glass beach
Salt pond beach park
National tropical botanical gardens (allerton garden)
Shipwreck beach
Po’ipu beach park (snorkel)
Spouting horn beach park (sunset)
Thursday-Ho’opi’i falls hike
Pick up food from LIH for shabbos
Friday-hang out at GHK grounds
Sunday-Waimea canyon lookout
Pu’u o Kila lookout
Queens pond
Barking sands
Polihale (sunset)

Looks good.
-You can't snorkel at Tunnels or do Queens Bath in the winter.
-I'm a big fan of kayaking to Secret Falls.
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« Reply #3016 on: January 18, 2022, 11:27:40 PM »
Looks good.
-You can't snorkel at Tunnels or do Queens Bath in the winter.
-I'm a big fan of kayaking to Secret Falls.

I figured we prob won’t be able to but I put it down on the itinerary just in case.

We are going with kids so I don’t think kayaking is doable for us.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3017 on: January 19, 2022, 09:23:34 AM »
For Polihale best if you have a high clearance vehicle, and if you want to be comfortable and not have the way take 30 minutes each way, get a jeep.
I did it with a small sedan and it was painful and took forever. My undercarriage hit a few bumps along the way and the car was groaning wearily by the time I made it back on the road. (Thankfully the rental didn't say boo).
agree. Did it with a Tahoe. Was painful too and the plastic housing around one of the wheels came off.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3018 on: January 21, 2022, 08:00:06 PM »
Enjoying the Grand Hyatt Kauai right now.

Bunch of notes to share, but I'll start with a quick review.
Jack Harter Helicopters doors off experience is awesome. Just did it. Opted for doors off to get more feel/thrill and boy did we get it. I'll have to do a full trip report later but just fyi.

Another PSA: PAS YISROEL bagels at Safeway in the regular bread section under the signature brand. Each bag marked pas yisroel.

They also have tons of tradition soups for cheaper than my local LA store ! (1.29 each).

Another PSA the club is currently using Cambridge house smoked salmon certified kosher by KSA.
Kosher OU almond and soy milk there too.
Disposable forks/knives/spoons.

The hotel will give you an extra fridge in your room free, or store food for you for $20 a day.
Tidepools is no longer an option for reheated food (officially)...

@Dan thanks for your shabbos tips.
Sensors covered, toilets unplugt. But I think some rooms have new thermostats.. so I won't be using my balconies this shabbos.

Just in case: another PSA, if your at the GHK, and need tea lights.. or challah or wine, pm me.. I have spare.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3019 on: January 21, 2022, 08:08:18 PM »
Enjoying the Grand Hyatt Kauai right now.

Bunch of notes to share, but I'll start with a quick review.
Jack Harter Helicopters doors off experience is awesome. Just did it. Opted for doors off to get more feel/thrill and boy did we get it. I'll have to do a full trip report later but just fyi.

Another PSA: PAS YISROEL bagels at Safeway in the regular bread section under the signature brand. Each bag marked pas yisroel.

They also have tons of tradition soups for cheaper than my local LA store ! (1.29 each).

Another PSA the club is currently using Cambridge house smoked salmon certified kosher by KSA.
Kosher OU almond and soy milk there too.
Disposable forks/knives/spoons.

The hotel will give you an extra fridge in your room free, or store food for you for $20 a day.
Tidepools is no longer an option for reheated food (officially)...

@Dan thanks for your shabbos tips.
Sensors covered, toilets unplugt. But I think some rooms have new thermostats.. so I won't be using my balconies this shabbos.

Just in case: another PSA, if your at the GHK, and need tea lights.. or challah or wine, pm me.. I have spare.
I'm staying there in a week, thanks for the updated tips!
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