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Related DDF Threads:
-Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
-Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
-Kauai Master Thread
-Oahu Master Thread
-Lanai, Molokai, and Niihau, Hawaii Master Thread


Before you go:

How long should I go for?
You could spend 10 years on Maui and not get your fill. That being said, the bare minimum to enjoy your stay is 4 days on the ground. A week is ideal.

It's possible to do a short trip by leaving early Sunday morning, getting there in the afternoon, and then leaving Thursday night and being back home for shabbos.

Do I need a guide book?
Very definitely. Sure you could find most info online, but nothing compares to a good, written-by-a-local, guide book. Maui Revealed is by far the best option, and will possibly be the best $16 you spent on your trip.

Here it is for FREE.

There is also an app version available for both iOS and Android for $7.99. The app has all the content of the book, plus navigation, offline maps, and links when applicable. You don't really need both, but some people find it useful to have the book while planning (much easier to use) and the app while on the island (for the maps and navigation).

What about Shabbos?
Some authorities hold that there's a dateline issue with Shabbos.
The local communities keep Shabbos on Saturday.
Definitely ask your LOR before you go - some hold simply that Shabbos is on Saturday, some hold that you have to keep Shabbos on both Friday and Saturday, and some hold that you have to keep D'oreisas on Friday and full Shabbos on Saturday.

If you must keep 2 days, remember that there are many questions that could come up (such as when to light Shabbos candles, how to warm up food, etc.), so make sure to discuss it all with your LOR.

There have been books written about the Chabad opinion of keeping Shabbos only on Saturday. Rabbi Aharon Dovid Gancz gives an absolutely fascinating pilpul on the topic, if you get a chance to attend one please record it (with permission) and upload the video online.

Note that you may run into this issue even if you leave the islands Thursday afternoon, as it may already be considered Shabbos. Ask your LOR.


Getting there and getting around:

Air:
The main airport is in Kahului, and is designated OGG. The are two other small airports - Kapalua (JHM) in the West Maui Mountains and Hana (HNM) in the east.
You could fly directly from the mainland to OGG from (bold is seasonal only):

ANC (AS)
BLI (AS, Allegiant Air)
DEN (UA)
DFW (AA)
LAX (AA, DL, HA, UA)
OAK (AS, HA)
ORD (UA)
PDX (AS)
PHX (US)
SAN (AS, HA)
SEA (AS, HA)
SFO (UA)
SJC (AS)
SMF (AS)
YEG (WestJet)
YVR (AC, WestJet)
YYC (AC, WestJet)

There are no direct flights from the East coast, so you will stop in one of these cities.
Alternately, you could fly directly to Honolulu (HNL) and continue to OGG from there.

Hawaiian and Go fly interisland from HNL, KOA, and LIH, Go, and Island Air flies from HNL. Mokulele flies from HNL and KOA, as well as to Kapalua (JHM), Hana (HNM), Molokai (MKK), Lanai (LNY), and Waimea-Kohala (MUE) on the Big Island.

Alternatively, you can also use 5k AA, 6k UA or 7.5k HA miles each way to fly interisland. You can use 15k DL pesos for a RT interisland. United allows a free stopover on a round-trip, so for instance you can fly HNL-LIH-OGG-HNL for just 12K miles.
HA has several tiers, similar to DL, the lowest tier is the only one that's available using partner miles, but with HA miles you can purchase tickets that are otherwise unavailable for additional miles.

Car:
A car is necessary on Maui. All major companies have branches, mostly at the airport. There are also some local companies.

Hertz has Gold Choice at the airport. According to National's website there is no Executive Aisle/Selection at the airport, but according to reports there is one, albeit sparse to the point of uselessness. Also check out www.discounthawaiicarrental.com - they book from the major brands, and are worth a try. Costco Travel very often has great prices too.

Make sure to check your reservations often, as prices tend to drop a few weeks before pickup. If it does, make a new reservation and only then cancel your original one.

There's nothing like a convertible on Maui (especially on the Road to Hana). A 4WD is not really necessary, however some people feel more comfortable in one on the 'other side' of the Road to Hana and the hairy parts of Kahekill Hwy (east of the blowhole).

Air Maui will mail you a nice free paper map of the island - click here to request it. It usually takes a week or two to arrive.


Where to stay:

The two most popular area to stay are on the West side (Lahaina, Ka'anapali, Kapalua) and the South side (Wailea, Kihei), due to the better weather there. The South side could sometimes get windy in the winter, though. There are also many places to rent Upcountry (Kula, Pukalani), where the air is cooler and the views smashing (but farther from the beach).

Here are some places that are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaMore InfoComments
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Hyatt RegencyWest side (Lahaina) WebsiteHyatt Category 5. The Hyatt advertises having Kosher food. In the past, these meals came from Oahu Kosher (Chabad in Honolulu). However, in Dec 2016 they claimed the meals were prepared by the Chabad of Maui, while in actuality they were prepared by a reform temple (story explained at the bottom of this post), which is still true as of Feb 2017.
AndazSouth side (Wailea)WebsiteHyatt category 6. A favorite among DDFers, although award space isn't easy to come by.
Grand WaileaSouth side (Wailea)WebsiteHilton - 80k-95k depending on season. Reminiscent of the GHK in Kauai with sprawling grounds and more pools than you count, located on the beautiful Wailea Beach.
SheratonWest side (Lahaina)WebsiteSPG category 6.
WestinWest side (Lahaina) WebsiteSPG category 6.
FairmontSouth side (Wailea)WebsiteAll suite hotel.
"Get your own place"AnywhereWebsiteThere are countless condos, timeshares, or villas available to rent on the island. The advantages are that you get more for your money - a couple of bedrooms, living/dining rooms, and a full kitchen. There will usually be a pool, sometimes even a private one. Additionally, they're often cheaper than a hotel. There are many places to find them -
HomeAway Maui
VRBO Maui
Airbnb Maui


What to do:

Beaches:
There are countless beaches on Maui, and all are public. Most offer amazing snorkeling. The East and South side beaches are safe for swimming / snorkeling year round, while some North and West beaches could be deadly in winter. Here are some popular ones, in no particular order:

NameAreaComments
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Beach 2Area 2Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Beach 3Area 3Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.


Hiking:
There are a tremendous amount of great hikes on Maui. Check the Maui Revealed book for detailed info on all of them, with maps, difficulty ratings, etc. These are just a few which are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaComments
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Sliding SandsHaleakalaAn amazing hike into the crater from the upper visitors center. Quite challenging due to the constant downhill on a loose cinder trail. Amazing views unlike anything on the island, and no shade. The entire trail takes all day, but most people take it only partway in. Go as far as you like and remember that the way back is a constant uphill and will take twice as long. Bring lots of water.
Pipiwai TrailHanaOne of the nicest trail on Maui. A bit past Hana, just before the Seven Sacred Pools. The hike goes through the jungle, past banyan trees and a 200-foot waterfall, and through a bamboo forest (this is the highlight for most people). The trail ends at the amazing 400-foot Waimoku Falls. Give this hike a couple of hours.
Lava FieldSouth MauiAt the end of the road, past the Ahihi-Kinau Natural Area Reserve. This is an amazing and relatively difficult hike. You will be walking on sharp, loose lava rocks the entire time, but the views are smashing and the terrain interesting. Great views of a particularly wild stretch of ocean, interesting pools (not swimmable), and ends in a glorious (and generally empty) beach if you brave it till the end. Do the loop - hug the coast on the way out, and take the Kings Highway back. See Maui Revealed for all the details.


Other activities:

ActivityComments
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Helicopter toursA few companies offer this; Blue Hawaiian is generally considered to be the best. There are different routes to choose from - keep in mind that the ones going to Haleakala don't actually go into the crater. This is not as recommended on Maui as it is on other islands, since the entire island is pretty much easily accessible so you won't go anywhere remote or extremely amazing.
Road to HanaAbsolute must-do. Don't get scared off by misinformation and go all the way around - in a way the backside is even more spectacular that the more popular first half. You do NOT need a special car or 4WD; any regular car could do it happily. Best way to do the road is to spend the night in Hana, as that will leave the most time to explore the thousand different things along the road. If you're only going for the day, make sure to be on the road EARLY (7-7:30 the latest).
Haleakala SunriseA spectacular event that is not to be missed. You will wake up at the witching hour, it will be freezing cold, and it will be absolutely worth it. Be there at least 45 minutes before the listed sunrise - the earlier the better; they close the upper parking lot when it fills up and you'll have to park at the lower visitor center lot. Dress warmly and bring lots of jackets and blankets. Take the trail to Pakaoao (White Hill) and you'll have the sunrise to yourself (mostly, at least).
'Ohe'o Gulch (Seven Sacred Pools)Also known as the Seven Sacred Pools, this is in the Hana side of Haleakala National Park. Save your receipt from sunrise; it's valid for three days and will get you in to the pools too. Short hike from the parking lot to the pools, and it's absolutely stunning. Will be absolutely PACKED from around 1PM and on (but still worth it). If you're staying in Hana go early in the morning and it'll be mostly empty.
Snorkling Molokini craterCountless boat companies will take you out to Molokini. It has the best underwater visibility in the state, sometimes over 100 feet. Somewhat overrated and over-touristed, but generally considered to be worth it.
Kayaking
Biking
Horseback riding
Ziplining
Cruises


Shopping:
  • Costco in Kahului has some kosher food, as well as the cheapest gas on the island
  • Lapperts ice cream store

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« Reply #3555 on: May 24, 2017, 03:24:19 PM »
I am assuming you are talking about paying for a trip to Molokini. Is there any place on Maui proper that can rival Molokini?
I found many places in South Maui that were more impressive than Molokini.
Maybe I did Molokini on a bad day or with a bad company, but I was underwhelmed.
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« Reply #3556 on: May 24, 2017, 03:28:11 PM »
Lol, no kosher food other than drinks. This isn't NYC.
Maui has great snorkeling in many places just off the shore. I still don't see the need to pay to snorkel, but to each their own.
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I think for snorkeling the best would be to get my own equipment and find a nice snorkeling place myself. do u recommend any specific place for snorkeling?
what is the best option for parasailing ?
any tips for snuba?

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« Reply #3557 on: May 24, 2017, 03:29:51 PM »
Lol, no kosher food other than drinks. This isn't NYC.
Maui has great snorkeling in many places just off the shore. I still don't see the need to pay to snorkel, but to each their own.
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« Reply #3558 on: May 24, 2017, 03:31:16 PM »
hahha!
I think for snorkeling the best would be to get my own equipment and find a nice snorkeling place myself. do u recommend any specific place for snorkeling?
what is the best option for parasailing ?
any tips for snuba?
Look in Maui Revealed, tons of good places.
I did Parasailing once in Aruba. Too expensive for what it is IMO.
Never did Snuba, why not just Scuba once you're doing that?
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« Reply #3559 on: May 24, 2017, 03:36:07 PM »

Never did Snuba, why not just Scuba once you're doing that?

U need to get certified for scuba=> more$ + more time consuming! lol

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« Reply #3560 on: May 24, 2017, 03:37:34 PM »
U need to get certified for scuba=> more$ + more time consuming! lol
So do a beginner's scuba.
Snuba just seems gimmicky to me. How much cheaper is it?
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« Reply #3561 on: May 24, 2017, 03:51:10 PM »

what is the best option for parasailing ?


I did parasailing once in Eilat. Was fun for about 2 minutes. Then its honestly pretty boring. I would skip it.

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« Reply #3562 on: May 24, 2017, 04:08:09 PM »
I am assuming you are talking about paying for a trip to Molokini. Is there any place on Maui proper that can rival Molokini?
Andaz had great snorkling, im sure Marriot which is next door is the same

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« Reply #3563 on: May 24, 2017, 04:24:36 PM »
Andaz had great snorkling, im sure Marriot which is next door is the same
Will probably end up staying in the Marriot. Hmm, now not sure if I should do the Molokini trip....

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« Reply #3564 on: May 24, 2017, 04:47:25 PM »
IMHO, if it's in season, whale watching is one of the best activities.
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« Reply #3565 on: May 24, 2017, 05:00:51 PM »
Andaz had great snorkling, im sure Marriot which is next door is the same

Definitely agree with this, the Andaz had amazing snorkeling. You couldn't avoid turtles if you tried to. And all the staff there told me Molokini is more of a tourist trap nowadays.

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« Reply #3566 on: May 24, 2017, 05:01:34 PM »
And all the staff there told me Molokini is more of a tourist trap nowadays.
That's my opinion as well.
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« Reply #3567 on: May 24, 2017, 05:49:01 PM »
So do a beginner's scuba.
Snuba just seems gimmicky to me. How much cheaper is it?
I've done Snuba three times, I think (including Molokini).  Definitely was a good alternative for me, as I wasn't ready for even an intro dive.  SCUBA also required more commitment than I was willing to make, at least in my mind.

Will probably end up staying in the Marriot. Hmm, now not sure if I should do the Molokini trip....
Sounds like Dan had bad weather for his Molokini trip, but I don't think that is the norm.  From what I've heard, most people find Molokini breathtaking.  My kids found the water too cold (it was winter, don't know how it compares to summer), but the adults were blown away.  I wouldn't call it a tourist trap; to quote Maui Revealed, "Best to go in with a blank slate, and you'll probably leave full of wonder."

I still vote that Molokini should not be missed, but if you decide to forego a snorkel boat, for South Maui, Maui Revealed rates, "The entire point separating Po'olenalena Beach from Palauea Beach" as great, and for West Maui, "When it's calm, the right side of Slaughterhouse Beach is excellent ... Black Rock at Ka'anapali Beach can be superb."  These are the spots he seems to like the best.

CMIIW, but I think that the only place on Maui that Snuba can be done is at Molokini.
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« Reply #3568 on: May 24, 2017, 09:41:50 PM »
Which tour did you use to go to Molokini?

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« Reply #3569 on: May 24, 2017, 11:50:36 PM »
I've done Snuba three times, I think (including Molokini).  Definitely was a good alternative for me, as I wasn't ready for even an intro dive.
Scuba isn't really something to be ready for. You find a good instructor and they teach you the ropes.

Mimi and I went with Maui Dreams on our honeymoon and they set us up with one instructor and 2 other people getting PADI certified. That was a disaster and I won the chargeback.

It took me over 8 years to gather the courage to do it again, it helped that the S Regis MLE had great masks that didn't leak and it definitely helped hiring a private instructor that took it easy and showed us the ropes at a pace we were comfortable with.

Absolutely incredible feeling. Like snorkeling but on some really good 'roids.

Sounds like Dan had bad weather for his Molokini trip, but I don't think that is the norm.  From what I've heard, most people find Molokini breathtaking.
I wonder if it was the weather or if I'm spoiled. Perhaps a combo of both, but I have had much better snorkeling on various parts of South Maui than Molokini.
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