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-Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
-Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
-Kauai Master Thread
-Oahu Master Thread
-Lanai, Molokai, and Niihau, Hawaii Master Thread


Before you go:

How long should I go for?
You could spend 10 years on Maui and not get your fill. That being said, the bare minimum to enjoy your stay is 4 days on the ground. A week is ideal.

It's possible to do a short trip by leaving early Sunday morning, getting there in the afternoon, and then leaving Thursday night and being back home for shabbos.

Do I need a guide book?
Very definitely. Sure you could find most info online, but nothing compares to a good, written-by-a-local, guide book. Maui Revealed is by far the best option, and will possibly be the best $16 you spent on your trip.

Here it is for FREE.

There is also an app version available for both iOS and Android for $7.99. The app has all the content of the book, plus navigation, offline maps, and links when applicable. You don't really need both, but some people find it useful to have the book while planning (much easier to use) and the app while on the island (for the maps and navigation).

What about Shabbos?
Some authorities hold that there's a dateline issue with Shabbos.
The local communities keep Shabbos on Saturday.
Definitely ask your LOR before you go - some hold simply that Shabbos is on Saturday, some hold that you have to keep Shabbos on both Friday and Saturday, and some hold that you have to keep D'oreisas on Friday and full Shabbos on Saturday.

If you must keep 2 days, remember that there are many questions that could come up (such as when to light Shabbos candles, how to warm up food, etc.), so make sure to discuss it all with your LOR.

There have been books written about the Chabad opinion of keeping Shabbos only on Saturday. Rabbi Aharon Dovid Gancz gives an absolutely fascinating pilpul on the topic, if you get a chance to attend one please record it (with permission) and upload the video online.

Note that you may run into this issue even if you leave the islands Thursday afternoon, as it may already be considered Shabbos. Ask your LOR.


Getting there and getting around:

Air:
The main airport is in Kahului, and is designated OGG. The are two other small airports - Kapalua (JHM) in the West Maui Mountains and Hana (HNM) in the east.
You could fly directly from the mainland to OGG from (bold is seasonal only):

ANC (AS)
BLI (AS, Allegiant Air)
DEN (UA)
DFW (AA)
LAX (AA, DL, HA, UA)
OAK (AS, HA)
ORD (UA)
PDX (AS)
PHX (US)
SAN (AS, HA)
SEA (AS, HA)
SFO (UA)
SJC (AS)
SMF (AS)
YEG (WestJet)
YVR (AC, WestJet)
YYC (AC, WestJet)

There are no direct flights from the East coast, so you will stop in one of these cities.
Alternately, you could fly directly to Honolulu (HNL) and continue to OGG from there.

Hawaiian and Go fly interisland from HNL, KOA, and LIH, Go, and Island Air flies from HNL. Mokulele flies from HNL and KOA, as well as to Kapalua (JHM), Hana (HNM), Molokai (MKK), Lanai (LNY), and Waimea-Kohala (MUE) on the Big Island.

Alternatively, you can also use 5k AA, 6k UA or 7.5k HA miles each way to fly interisland. You can use 15k DL pesos for a RT interisland. United allows a free stopover on a round-trip, so for instance you can fly HNL-LIH-OGG-HNL for just 12K miles.
HA has several tiers, similar to DL, the lowest tier is the only one that's available using partner miles, but with HA miles you can purchase tickets that are otherwise unavailable for additional miles.

Car:
A car is necessary on Maui. All major companies have branches, mostly at the airport. There are also some local companies.

Hertz has Gold Choice at the airport. According to National's website there is no Executive Aisle/Selection at the airport, but according to reports there is one, albeit sparse to the point of uselessness. Also check out www.discounthawaiicarrental.com - they book from the major brands, and are worth a try. Costco Travel very often has great prices too.

Make sure to check your reservations often, as prices tend to drop a few weeks before pickup. If it does, make a new reservation and only then cancel your original one.

There's nothing like a convertible on Maui (especially on the Road to Hana). A 4WD is not really necessary, however some people feel more comfortable in one on the 'other side' of the Road to Hana and the hairy parts of Kahekill Hwy (east of the blowhole).

Air Maui will mail you a nice free paper map of the island - click here to request it. It usually takes a week or two to arrive.


Where to stay:

The two most popular area to stay are on the West side (Lahaina, Ka'anapali, Kapalua) and the South side (Wailea, Kihei), due to the better weather there. The South side could sometimes get windy in the winter, though. There are also many places to rent Upcountry (Kula, Pukalani), where the air is cooler and the views smashing (but farther from the beach).

Here are some places that are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaMore InfoComments
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Hyatt RegencyWest side (Lahaina) WebsiteHyatt Category 5. The Hyatt advertises having Kosher food. In the past, these meals came from Oahu Kosher (Chabad in Honolulu). However, in Dec 2016 they claimed the meals were prepared by the Chabad of Maui, while in actuality they were prepared by a reform temple (story explained at the bottom of this post), which is still true as of Feb 2017.
AndazSouth side (Wailea)WebsiteHyatt category 6. A favorite among DDFers, although award space isn't easy to come by.
Grand WaileaSouth side (Wailea)WebsiteHilton - 80k-95k depending on season. Reminiscent of the GHK in Kauai with sprawling grounds and more pools than you count, located on the beautiful Wailea Beach.
SheratonWest side (Lahaina)WebsiteSPG category 6.
WestinWest side (Lahaina) WebsiteSPG category 6.
FairmontSouth side (Wailea)WebsiteAll suite hotel.
"Get your own place"AnywhereWebsiteThere are countless condos, timeshares, or villas available to rent on the island. The advantages are that you get more for your money - a couple of bedrooms, living/dining rooms, and a full kitchen. There will usually be a pool, sometimes even a private one. Additionally, they're often cheaper than a hotel. There are many places to find them -
HomeAway Maui
VRBO Maui
Airbnb Maui


What to do:

Beaches:
There are countless beaches on Maui, and all are public. Most offer amazing snorkeling. The East and South side beaches are safe for swimming / snorkeling year round, while some North and West beaches could be deadly in winter. Here are some popular ones, in no particular order:

NameAreaComments
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Beach 1Area 1Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Beach 2Area 2Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Beach 3Area 3Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.


Hiking:
There are a tremendous amount of great hikes on Maui. Check the Maui Revealed book for detailed info on all of them, with maps, difficulty ratings, etc. These are just a few which are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaComments
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Sliding SandsHaleakalaAn amazing hike into the crater from the upper visitors center. Quite challenging due to the constant downhill on a loose cinder trail. Amazing views unlike anything on the island, and no shade. The entire trail takes all day, but most people take it only partway in. Go as far as you like and remember that the way back is a constant uphill and will take twice as long. Bring lots of water.
Pipiwai TrailHanaOne of the nicest trail on Maui. A bit past Hana, just before the Seven Sacred Pools. The hike goes through the jungle, past banyan trees and a 200-foot waterfall, and through a bamboo forest (this is the highlight for most people). The trail ends at the amazing 400-foot Waimoku Falls. Give this hike a couple of hours.
Lava FieldSouth MauiAt the end of the road, past the Ahihi-Kinau Natural Area Reserve. This is an amazing and relatively difficult hike. You will be walking on sharp, loose lava rocks the entire time, but the views are smashing and the terrain interesting. Great views of a particularly wild stretch of ocean, interesting pools (not swimmable), and ends in a glorious (and generally empty) beach if you brave it till the end. Do the loop - hug the coast on the way out, and take the Kings Highway back. See Maui Revealed for all the details.


Other activities:

ActivityComments
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Helicopter toursA few companies offer this; Blue Hawaiian is generally considered to be the best. There are different routes to choose from - keep in mind that the ones going to Haleakala don't actually go into the crater. This is not as recommended on Maui as it is on other islands, since the entire island is pretty much easily accessible so you won't go anywhere remote or extremely amazing.
Road to HanaAbsolute must-do. Don't get scared off by misinformation and go all the way around - in a way the backside is even more spectacular that the more popular first half. You do NOT need a special car or 4WD; any regular car could do it happily. Best way to do the road is to spend the night in Hana, as that will leave the most time to explore the thousand different things along the road. If you're only going for the day, make sure to be on the road EARLY (7-7:30 the latest).
Haleakala SunriseA spectacular event that is not to be missed. You will wake up at the witching hour, it will be freezing cold, and it will be absolutely worth it. Be there at least 45 minutes before the listed sunrise - the earlier the better; they close the upper parking lot when it fills up and you'll have to park at the lower visitor center lot. Dress warmly and bring lots of jackets and blankets. Take the trail to Pakaoao (White Hill) and you'll have the sunrise to yourself (mostly, at least).
'Ohe'o Gulch (Seven Sacred Pools)Also known as the Seven Sacred Pools, this is in the Hana side of Haleakala National Park. Save your receipt from sunrise; it's valid for three days and will get you in to the pools too. Short hike from the parking lot to the pools, and it's absolutely stunning. Will be absolutely PACKED from around 1PM and on (but still worth it). If you're staying in Hana go early in the morning and it'll be mostly empty.
Snorkling Molokini craterCountless boat companies will take you out to Molokini. It has the best underwater visibility in the state, sometimes over 100 feet. Somewhat overrated and over-touristed, but generally considered to be worth it.
Kayaking
Biking
Horseback riding
Ziplining
Cruises


Shopping:
  • Costco in Kahului has some kosher food, as well as the cheapest gas on the island
  • Lapperts ice cream store

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Re: Maui Master Thread
« Reply #3645 on: July 28, 2017, 10:03:09 AM »
I did the same things in one day but the acid warzone hike was definitely a lot tougher than I expected it to be

Are your sure you're not getting confused with some other place? The "hike" to the acid war zone is basically a path through a field.
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« Reply #3646 on: July 28, 2017, 10:26:17 AM »
Are your sure you're not getting confused with some other place? The "hike" to the acid war zone is basically a path through a field.

I did the long way that was mentioned in maui revealed. It's possible I made it longer than necessary since the path wasn't too clear.

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« Reply #3647 on: July 30, 2017, 12:32:24 PM »
Hi there!  My name's Shlomo and - to paraphrase Mulaney - I'm new in town.
My wife and I are heading for a honeymoon this week to Maui (and Kauai).
I heard of the kosher toaster-oven conga-line. 
However, being new here, I looked at and posted in the thread, but still didn't know how it works.
Could anyone please perhaps help a lost, wandering Jew?
Thanks so much!

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« Reply #3648 on: July 30, 2017, 03:17:12 PM »
Hi there!  My name's Shlomo and - to paraphrase Mulaney - I'm new in town.
My wife and I are heading for a honeymoon this week to Maui (and Kauai).
I heard of the kosher toaster-oven conga-line. 
However, being new here, I looked at and posted in the thread, but still didn't know how it works.
Could anyone please perhaps help a lost, wandering Jew?
Thanks so much!
Basically, someone posts where they're leaving it, and if you'll be in same area close enough after them, you arrange to pick up from them, or they leave it at hotel in your name.

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Re: Maui Master Thread
« Reply #3649 on: July 31, 2017, 11:38:17 PM »
No availability Reservations for Haleakala Sunrise the week I am being there. Is going for Sunset that bad?

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« Reply #3650 on: August 01, 2017, 11:32:13 AM »
No availability Reservations for Haleakala Sunrise the week I am being there. Is going for Sunset that bad?

Some people like sunset better due to smaller crowds and not having to wake up before 3am. I personally did sunrise, though.


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« Reply #3651 on: August 01, 2017, 05:53:04 PM »
Some people like sunset better due to smaller crowds and not having to wake up before 3am. I personally did sunrise, though.

Ye we are far from morning and crowd people. Was honestly considering doing Sunset even if Sunrise was an option. Just curious to hear from people who did it....

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« Reply #3652 on: August 01, 2017, 08:42:50 PM »
Ye we are far from morning and crowd people. Was honestly considering doing Sunset even if Sunrise was an option. Just curious to hear from people who did it....
They open up more space 24 hours in advance, so you still may be able to snag a sunrise ticket.

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« Reply #3653 on: August 01, 2017, 09:03:34 PM »
Just booked my first Hawaii getaway. Not nearly a long as I'd like it to be but it's all I can pull off right now. Itinerary is as follows:

JFK-LAX for Shabbos (7/25-7/27) on VA - 8K points per passenger
LAX-OGG Sunday morning to Wednesday night on VA - 14K points per passenger
OGG-SFO Wednesday night via United - $219 per passenger (paid with Amex plat points)
SFO-JFK Thursday morning via JetBlue $244 per passenger

SFO is just a stopover. I booked it as two completely separate flights though so I need to get my luggage and re-check it to JFK. All flights are in economy except JetBlue which I upgraded to Even More Space for 1,100 points per passenger

I pieced this itinerary together at 3 am, so if anyone finds any holes in it please point it out!

I haven't done much research on hotels yet, but I only have Hilton, Marriott, and SPG points. Thinking of staying in the Marriott Wailea. I noticed it's not in the wiki, and not too many reviews on it in this thread. Not sure if that's because it doesn't measure up to the other hotels or it just happens to not be as popular. If anyone can give me more direction on hotels, it would be appreciated.

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Re: Maui Master Thread
« Reply #3654 on: August 01, 2017, 11:03:20 PM »
Just booked my first Hawaii getaway. Not nearly a long as I'd like it to be but it's all I can pull off right now. Itinerary is as follows:

JFK-LAX for Shabbos (7/25-7/27) on VA - 8K points per passenger
LAX-OGG Sunday morning to Wednesday night on VA - 14K points per passenger
OGG-SFO Wednesday night via United - $219 per passenger (paid with Amex plat points)
SFO-JFK Thursday morning via JetBlue $244 per passenger

SFO is just a stopover. I booked it as two completely separate flights though so I need to get my luggage and re-check it to JFK. All flights are in economy except JetBlue which I upgraded to Even More Space for 1,100 points per passenger

I pieced this itinerary together at 3 am, so if anyone finds any holes in it please point it out!

I haven't done much research on hotels yet, but I only have Hilton, Marriott, and SPG points. Thinking of staying in the Marriott Wailea. I noticed it's not in the wiki, and not too many reviews on it in this thread. Not sure if that's because it doesn't measure up to the other hotels or it just happens to not be as popular. If anyone can give me more direction on hotels, it would be appreciated.
did you miss your flight? (7/25?)

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Re: Maui Master Thread
« Reply #3655 on: August 02, 2017, 07:58:01 AM »
can someone who stayed at the Marriott Wailea beach resort please give a review

how does it compare to the andez? to the waldorf? and to the other hotels

thanks
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Re: Maui Master Thread
« Reply #3656 on: August 02, 2017, 09:21:30 AM »
No availability Reservations for Haleakala Sunrise the week I am being there. Is going for Sunset that bad?

You can also book with a tour company
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« Reply #3657 on: August 02, 2017, 09:54:17 AM »
did you miss your flight? (7/25?)
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« Reply #3658 on: August 02, 2017, 10:16:01 AM »
Just booked my first Hawaii getaway. Not nearly a long as I'd like it to be but it's all I can pull off right now. Itinerary is as follows:

JFK-LAX for Shabbos (7/25-7/27) on VA - 8K points per passenger
LAX-OGG Sunday morning to Wednesday night on VA - 14K points per passenger
OGG-SFO Wednesday night via United - $219 per passenger (paid with Amex plat points)
SFO-JFK Thursday morning via JetBlue $244 per passenger

SFO is just a stopover. I booked it as two completely separate flights though so I need to get my luggage and re-check it to JFK. All flights are in economy except JetBlue which I upgraded to Even More Space for 1,100 points per passenger

I pieced this itinerary together at 3 am, so if anyone finds any holes in it please point it out!

I haven't done much research on hotels yet, but I only have Hilton, Marriott, and SPG points. Thinking of staying in the Marriott Wailea. I noticed it's not in the wiki, and not too many reviews on it in this thread. Not sure if that's because it doesn't measure up to the other hotels or it just happens to not be as popular. If anyone can give me more direction on hotels, it would be appreciated.
With only 2 full days on the ground, make sure to plan everything out so you have time to hit the highlights. I'd also recommend staying in south Maui as it provides better access to airport and major attractions (RTH/Haleakala) then West Maui does.

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Re: Maui Master Thread
« Reply #3659 on: August 02, 2017, 01:01:09 PM »
can someone who stayed at the Marriott Wailea beach resort please give a review

how does it compare to the andez? to the waldorf? and to the other hotels

thanks

Yes was wondering the same thing. Staying there in 2-3 weeks.