@Yehuda's Israel/Eurotrip Honeymoon Trip Report

[Ergel]

Did you ask your LOR regarding shabbos candles on the front desk? Why not just use a light in the room

[@Yehuda]

Thanks. I hope to leave SVQ by 9:00 to give more time in GIB, but in reality we'll probably leave by 10 and get to GIB around 12:30. I haven't planned GIB yet, but we'll probably just do the Rock.

We also had hoped to leave at 9AM. Call the Eliott, pretend to be me and see if you can find out what time we actually checked in on Friday 6/27/14. Would give you a good estimate of what time you may actually get there when you plan on leaving SVQ at 9.

Did you ask your LOR regarding shabbos candles on the front desk? Why not just use a light in the room

Yeah. I don't remember the exact Psak but IIRC he told me to try to light candles first and if a hotel says no, then just turn on the bathroom lights (can't remember if we were supposed to make a Bracha on the lights, but I bet my wife would remember). They were more than happy to let us light on the front desk and even excitedly watched my wife light.

[Ergel]

We also had hoped to leave at 9AM. Call the Eliott, pretend to be me and see if you can find out what time we actually checked in on Friday 6/27/14. Would give you a good estimate of what time you may actually get there when you plan on leaving SVQ at 9.
Yeah. I don't remember the exact Psak but IIRC he told me to try to light candles first and if a hotel says no, then just turn on the bathroom lights (can't remember if we were supposed to make a Bracha on the lights, but I bet my wife would remember). They were more than happy to let us light on the front desk and even excitedly watched my wife light.

Your rabbi said to light candles on the front desk or in your room?

[@Yehuda]

Your rabbi said to light candles on the front desk or in your room?

I don't recall him specifying. I can't imagine the room would have been allowed by the hotel staff.

[Ergel]

I don't recall him specifying. I can't imagine the room would have been allowed by the hotel staff.

And I can't imagine your Rabbi would have said to light on the front desk. You should clarify that for future situations

[@Yehuda]

And I can't imagine your Rabbi would have said to light on the front desk. You should clarify that for future situations

Thanks. I hear the concern. I'm actually pretty sure I discussed with him the idea of lighting but not in the room. Either way, I can check with him next time I see him.

[EJB]

Thanks. I hear the concern. I'm actually pretty sure I discussed with him the idea of lighting but not in the room. Either way, I can check with him next time I see him.

What's the issue with lighting in your room? Never had a problem before.

[@Yehuda]

What's the issue with lighting in your room? Never had a problem before.

I didn't want to without asking. Maybe I'm a goody-goody? Maybe risk averse?

[moish]

What's the issue with lighting in your room? Never had a problem before.

bad idea to leave candles unsupervised in your room

[JayR]

And I can't imagine your Rabbi would have said to light on the front desk. You should clarify that for future situations

Why? Is bc your not benefiting it from the light if it's in a well lit lobby?

[Ergel]

Why? Is bc your not benefiting it from the light if it's in a well lit lobby?

No. Because you can only light in a place wish is meyuchad for you

[@Yehuda]

No. Because you can only light in a place wish is meyuchad for you

^ Yeah, that's what I would have guessed. According to your reasoning, JayR, even lighting in your dining room would be an issue if the chandelier is on.

[EJB]

bad idea to leave candles unsupervised in your room

Tea lights?

[moish]

Tea lights?

still a bad idea. besides the actual danger, what happens if they come into your room while your out?

[EJB]

still a bad idea. besides the actual danger, what happens if they come into your room while your out?

We usually don't leave at night

[Ergel]

bad idea to leave candles unsupervised in your room

[moish]

We usually don't leave at night

if you were following the flow of the conversation, you will notice that we were referring to a situation where someone left the hotel to eat somewhere else.

im noticing a new trend on ddf these days...

[@Yehuda]

if you were following the flow of the conversation, you will notice that we were referring to a situation where someone left the hotel to eat somewhere else.

im noticing a new trend on ddf these days...

And went to Shul...

[EJB]

And went to Shul...

With a baby there's little chance that will happen for my wife . Regardless I've left a room w tea lights and don't have a problem w that (as long as there aren't strong drafts)

[EJB]

if you were following the flow of the conversation, you will notice that we were referring to a situation where someone left the hotel to eat somewhere else.

im noticing a new trend on ddf these days...

Leaving tea lights unattended does not seem to me more dangerous than leaving a halogen/incandescent lamp unattended. Both can cause fires if toppled. Both should not be left susceptible to toppling.

And if you're concerned the hotel staff will open your door, put up a "do not disturb" sign. I'm assuming most people do that on shabbos anyway.