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Re: Hopping Around Asia (Mostly)
« Reply #60 on: July 07, 2015, 11:11:28 AM »
Looks amazing . Not that I know you or even know that you are jewish. assuming you are jewish how do you justify going into temples that are more than likely been used for idol worship. Thus going against the Almighty's will as expressed in the shulchan aruch?
Maybe if you would have asked it like this:
"I am curious as to how you entered temples. Did you ask a LOR before you went in? What is the reasoning behind it?"
you would have gotten a response from the OP and people wouldn't have jumped on you.
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Re: Hopping Around Asia (Mostly)
« Reply #61 on: July 07, 2015, 11:15:11 AM »
awesome report!!

would you mind sharing how much the RPG cost?

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Re: Hopping Around Asia (Mostly)
« Reply #62 on: July 07, 2015, 11:28:01 AM »
awesome report!!

would you mind sharing how much the RPG cost?

an arm & a leg  ;)

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Re: Hopping Around Asia (Mostly)
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Re: Hopping Around Asia (Mostly)
« Reply #64 on: July 07, 2015, 11:48:21 AM »
awesome report!!

would you mind sharing how much the RPG cost?

Curious as well...  I get to shoot full auto fairly often but an RPG would be an experience.

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Re: Hopping Around Asia (Mostly)
« Reply #65 on: July 07, 2015, 11:51:35 AM »
I would take a look here

Looks like it costs $350 for an RPG but when you go outdoors they make you shoot a budget of at least $350 anyways.
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Re: Hopping Around Asia (Mostly)
« Reply #66 on: July 07, 2015, 11:52:16 AM »
There is a place outside Beijing where you can shoot an RPG, Mortar etc as well and use live animals as the target.

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Re: Hopping Around Asia (Mostly)
« Reply #67 on: July 07, 2015, 11:57:52 AM »
Looks amazing . Not that I know you or even know that you are jewish. assuming you are jewish how do you justify going into temples that are more than likely been used for idol worship. Thus going against the Almighty's will as expressed in the shulchan aruch?
i actually dont have a problem with the question, au contraire, i welcome it

it would also be hypocritical of me to reject your question since i have a history on here of questioning things based on judaism and sometimes calling people out (not so much recently). even in this very report i captioned a picture of an identifiably (is that a word?) treif restaurant of being a legitimate dining option for those who eat rabanut  (albeit jokingly, but still...)

with regards to your question itself:

note that i didnt post any pictures of me actually being inside a temple, that makes a big difference. but even if i would have, the explanation is the following.

i am very sensitive to going into places of avodah zarah. the widely accepted view is that churches are considered a place of avodah zara. as such, when i visited rome i did not enter the st peters basilica (not that i have interest in the church itself, but rather the claim that it contains a column from the beis hamikdash). nor did i go see michelangelo's moses since it is housed in a church.

i take it a step further. i not only avoid going into fully functioning churches, but also to places where prayer services are held, even once a year, such as the sistine chapel. i had to wait outside while my tour group entered the pantheon in rome. a fully functioning church? no. but my research showed me that there are prayer sessions held there a few times a year. ditto with the mezquita in cordoba, spain

HOWEVER, the above does not apply for deactivated churches. as long as there are no longer religious services held, it's fair game, such as with the hagia sofia in istanbul and the parthenon in athens. one should certainly consult with their own rabbi to see what he should do, but this is a valid shita as well

the angkor wat hasnt been used for any idol worship ceremony in ages. this could technically change, so before someone visits they should do research as i did. i didnt specifically ask a rov about the angkor wat, because to me, avoda zarah is avodah zara is avodah zara

i hope i answered your question, if you have any more, feel free to ask

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Re: Hopping Around Asia (Mostly)
« Reply #68 on: July 07, 2015, 12:02:06 PM »
and "different" TR.
how so?

At one point, do you mind breaking down flights/points so we have an idea of how you booked it all as well? TIA
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Re: Hopping Around Asia (Mostly)
« Reply #69 on: July 07, 2015, 12:04:44 PM »


Awesome TR Moish! That sand dunes driving is insane! I'd love to drive there one day, probably flip 100 times or more before getting it right.

Any videos to share of the machine gun?
i dont think you can drive yourself... theres a method to the madness, note the driver violently moving the wheel back and forth to gain traction i would assume

how can i block myself out of a video?

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Re: Hopping Around Asia (Mostly)
« Reply #70 on: July 07, 2015, 12:08:15 PM »

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Re: Hopping Around Asia (Mostly)
« Reply #71 on: July 07, 2015, 12:08:52 PM »
its too bad cambodia was so early on in the trip, i dont think the rest of the cities will be as exciting as a tr

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Re: Hopping Around Asia (Mostly)
« Reply #72 on: July 07, 2015, 12:09:15 PM »
its too bad cambodia was so early on in the trip, i dont think the rest of the cities will be as exciting as a tr
How long were you there for?
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Re: Hopping Around Asia (Mostly)
« Reply #73 on: July 07, 2015, 12:10:02 PM »
its too bad cambodia was so early on in the trip, i dont think the rest of the cities will be as exciting as a tr
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Re: Hopping Around Asia (Mostly)
« Reply #74 on: July 07, 2015, 12:11:09 PM »
i actually dont have a problem with the question, au contraire, i welcome it

it would also be hypocritical of me to reject your question since i have a history on here of questioning things based on judaism and sometimes calling people out (not so much recently). even in this very report i captioned a picture of an identifiably (is that a word?) treif restaurant of being a legitimate dining option for those who eat rabanut  (albeit jokingly, but still...)

with regards to your question itself:

note that i didnt post any pictures of me actually being inside a temple, that makes a big difference. but even if i would have, the explanation is the following.

i am very sensitive to going into places of avodah zarah. the widely accepted view is that churches are considered a place of avodah zara. as such, when i visited rome i did not enter the st peters basilica (not that i have interest in the church itself, but rather the claim that it contains a column from the beis hamikdash). nor did i go see michelangelo's moses since it is housed in a church.

i take it a step further. i not only avoid going into fully functioning churches, but also to places where prayer services are held, even once a year, such as the sistine chapel. i had to wait outside while my tour group entered the pantheon in rome. a fully functioning church? no. but my research showed me that there are prayer sessions held there a few times a year. ditto with the mezquita in cordoba, spain

HOWEVER, the above does not apply for deactivated churches. as long as there are no longer religious services held, it's fair game, such as with the hagia sofia in istanbul and the parthenon in athens. one should certainly consult with their own rabbi to see what he should do, but this is a valid shita as well

the angkor wat hasnt been used for any idol worship ceremony in ages. this could technically change, so before someone visits they should do research as i did. i didnt specifically ask a rov about the angkor wat, because to me, avoda zarah is avodah zara is avodah zara

i hope i answered your question, if you have any more, feel free to ask

I appreciate the manner you used in your response .

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Re: Hopping Around Asia (Mostly)
« Reply #75 on: July 07, 2015, 12:29:16 PM »
how can i block myself out of a video?
You need a professional program for that like Adobe Premier Pro

And regarding churches, i know some Jews go into the church in Venice at San Marco claiming it is no longer a church but an attraction.

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Re: Hopping Around Asia (Mostly)
« Reply #76 on: July 07, 2015, 12:59:44 PM »
Great report.  The sand dunes look crazy!

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Re: Hopping Around Asia (Mostly)
« Reply #77 on: July 07, 2015, 01:00:10 PM »
Fantastic TR!!

Curious Question why did you turn down the elephant rides?

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Re: Hopping Around Asia (Mostly)
« Reply #78 on: July 07, 2015, 02:07:23 PM »
Great TR!!!!!!
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Re: Hopping Around Asia (Mostly)
« Reply #79 on: July 07, 2015, 02:11:35 PM »
Really great stuff! Thanks for sharing