Surface Book

[Centro]

Even more so.

I hear, good to know.

[jj1000]

Yup, that's what I'm thinking now.

Agreed. It still will be an amazing piece to show off to friends and stuff. All the cool kids will have it in school, and the windows fan bois will finally have the upper hand lol.

I can hear that when it comes to software, does it apply to hardware as well?

Software can be updated...

[Super Speed]

Agreed. It still will be an amazing piece to show off to friends and stuff. All the cool kids will have it in school, and the windows fan bois will finally have the upper hand lol.
 Software can be updated...

I don't really see how it's *that* much greater than the surface 3, in terms of looks.

[yoshyosh]

http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/21/9574381/microsoft-surface-book-laptop-review

[Super Speed]

After reading up on it I'm getting tempted to ditch my Macbook and get this...

[ya]

Ok, fair point about them not bring the same, but still don't know why you'd buy one, especially for the reason you mentioned.

Any reason someone would NEED osx over windows?

[an613]

Any reason someone would NEED osx over windows?

If they're building iPhone apps

[yoshyosh]

If they're building iPhone apps

I have made a few iPhone apps on windows, what's special about osx for apps

[JoeyShmoe]

I have made a few iPhone apps on windows, what's special about osx for apps

How did make iOS apps and Windows? Xcode isn't available for anything other than OsX

[yoshyosh]

How did make iOS apps and Windows? Xcode isn't available for anything other than OsX

I use Smartface

[JoeyShmoe]

I use Smartface

That's an emulator, you're not actually coding in the native language. I didn't do any research, do you get access to all APIs as soon as they come out?

[yoshyosh]

That's an emulator, you're not actually coding in the native language. I didn't do any research, do you get access to all APIs as soon as they come out?

https://www.smartface.io/why-smartface/
Native Development, Simplified

Smartface is the only cross-platform native mobile application development platform with with drag & drop design editor. Design high quality iOS and Android apps with just a few clicks.

[JoeyShmoe]

https://www.smartface.io/why-smartface/
Native Development, Simplified

Smartface is the only cross-platform native mobile application development platform with with drag & drop design editor. Design high quality iOS and Android apps with just a few clicks.

I have a couple of issues with this (and programs in this style):

• The level of your API support is based on where they are up to, Android 6.0 was released to the public well over a month ago (don't remember the exact date) yet they don't support it yet. I'm sure that the same is for iOS
• Not everything in an application is drag & drop, how much access do you have to really program an application? Can you do REST requests? Can you parse responses?
• Some others that I can't think of right now

[tzifanya54]

Checked one out at a windows store. I wasn't too impressed with the overall quality of the hardware. Didn't feel nearly as solid as a MacBook construction.

[Super Speed]

Checked one out at a windows store. I wasn't too impressed with the overall quality of the hardware. Didn't feel nearly as solid as a MacBook construction.

+1, I'd wait at least until the next version of it before getting one.

[Dan]

+1, I'd wait at least until the next version of it before getting one.

Without a doubt.

[Super Speed]

And this thing feels like there are rocks in it compared to the Macbook

[ya]

And this thing feels like there are rocks in it compared to the Macbook

What does this mean?

[tzifanya54]

What does this mean?

Quite heavy by comparison (and clumsy).

[ya]

Huh they exactly the same.  3.48 pounds