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Amazing. Stupid of the women to appeal to the Supreme Court, they will just get a SC precedent to same effect.

Public sentiment in Israel is 100% in favor of the event, the Supreme Court won't risk ruling against it and irking the entire country mid elections that are already focused on limiting their power.

ETA: Ironically, the only people in Israel who are really opposed to this event are the frum that are against concerts even when they are separate.
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@CountValentine are you able to play devils advocate or not here?

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@CountValentine are you able to play devils advocate or not here?
I can play anywhere but have not been following.
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She sounds like such an idiot. The chareidi doesn't even need to say anything. Just let her talk

Indeed. Now if only UTJ and Shas play this right, and keep on harping on Lieberman and Lapid's responses to this saga in a smart creative way, maybe some voters that intended to vote for them won't do so. I don't think UTJ or Shas voters (or potential voters) could be affected by this (or by any other campaign) in any significant way. This should be leveraged to move people away from Lieberman and Lapid, as well as possibly gain some Arab votes by extrapolating this. The last round showed that a seat can hang on a very small number of votes.
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Amazing. Stupid of the women to appeal to the Supreme Court, they will just get a SC precedent to same effect.

Public sentiment in Israel is 100% in favor of the event, the Supreme Court won't risk ruling against it and irking the entire country mid elections that are already focused on limiting their power.

ETA: Ironically, the only people in Israel who are really opposed to this event are the frum that are against concerts even when they are separate.

You can't make this stuff up!

https://www.israelhayom.co.il/article/682741
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I can play anywhere but have not been following.
Are you ok with seperate men's and women's tennis, or do you think it should be one competition

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Are you ok with seperate men's and women's tennis, or do you think it should be one competition
Separate and that is an issue in the election?
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You can't make this stuff up!

https://www.israelhayom.co.il/article/682741

I guess they did make it up.

Supreme Court only ruled about the lack of authority of the court that ruled that it could take place to overturn the original ruling.

https://m.ynet.co.il/Articles/5569420
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Amazing. Stupid of the women to appeal to the Supreme Court, they will just get a SC precedent to same effect.

Public sentiment in Israel is 100% in favor of the event, the Supreme Court won't risk ruling against it and irking the entire country mid elections that are already focused on limiting their power.

ETA: Ironically, the only people in Israel who are really opposed to this event are the frum that are against concerts even when they are separate.
i.e. Most Gedolei Yisroel

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You can't make this stuff up!

https://www.israelhayom.co.il/article/682741
The headline is very misleading. The SC didn't rule on the case at all, merely procedural that the second court didn't have jurisdiction. Makes me wonder if that was obvious and the second court decided to rule just for the heck of it.
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i.e. Most Gedolei Yisroel
Yup, the same ones who banned the internet.
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Yup, the same ones who banned the internet.
I wasn't aware that they banned the internet....

Source?

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I can't imagine that many people going to a Motti or MBD concert would want to sit mixed anyway.
if you look on the reviews on nigun music you'd be suprised that he has non frum fans https://www.nigunmusic.com/haneshama-bekirbi.html especially this one:
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אינני חרדית ואינני אפילו דתיה, אך הנשמה שבקרבי זיהתה לאחרונה במוטי שטיינמץ זמר בחסד עליון. זכינו כולנו שהוא הולך עם הכישרון שלו, עם המתנה שקיבל משמיים, עם השליחות שלו. אשריך מוטי!
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Small people talk about other people.
Average people talk about things
BIG PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IDEAS.

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if you look on the reviews on nigun music you'd be suprised that he has non frum fans https://www.nigunmusic.com/haneshama-bekirbi.html especially this one:
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אינני חרדית ואינני אפילו דתיה, אך הנשמה שבקרבי זיהתה לאחרונה במוטי שטיינמץ זמר בחסד עליון. זכינו כולנו שהוא הולך עם הכישרון שלו, עם המתנה שקיבל משמיים, עם השליחות שלו. אשריך מוטי!
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He has millions of views on Youtube, and most of the comments are from Non Jews

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Original court ruling, and Israeli Supreme Court ruling attached.
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Separate and that is an issue in the election?

So if you want to get up to speed on this in English, here are some articles:

https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Afula-Mayor-says-Haredi-event-will-be-segregated-after-court-decision-598614
https://www.timesofisrael.com/court-overturns-ban-on-separate-gender-seating-at-afula-concert/

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-sex-segregated-concert-in-israel-s-afula-thrills-ultra-orthodox-and-their-leaders-1.7685218
https://www.timesofisrael.com/high-court-ruling-against-gender-segregated-concert-comes-too-late-to-stop-event/

And here are some quotes indicating the relevance to the election:

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Deri went on to lambaste Blue and White MK Yair Lapid, who supported the  initial decision to bar the concert from being gender-segregated.

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During failed coalition talks earlier this year, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was reported to have agreed to an ultra-Orthodox demand to allow for gender segregation in public spaces.

A leaked draft of Likud’s agreement with the Haredi United Torah Judaism party stated that “within 90 days the government will amend the law in such a way that it will be permissible to provide public services, public study sessions and public events in which men and women are separated. This separation will not constitute discrimination according to the law.”
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The big luck of the right wing, is that the extreme left cannot hold themselves back until after the election to show their true colors. Here's an example:

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How stupid can you get?
"אשה שרוצה לצפות במופע של סטיימנץ דווקא בשטח התחום שהוקצה לגברים" Seriously??
And what if a women wants to use the men's washroom. Should she not be stopped because it's "זכותה"
What idiots
Life isn't about checking the boxes. Nobody cares.

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How stupid can you get?
"אשה שרוצה לצפות במופע של סטיימנץ דווקא בשטח התחום שהוקצה לגברים" Seriously??
And what if a women wants to use the men's washroom. Should she not be stopped because it's "זכותה"
What idiots

Yeah - and it's always אשה שרוצה לצפות במופע של סטיימנץ דווקא בשטח התחום שהוקצה לגברים

never גבר שרוצה......