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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1640 on: March 02, 2015, 02:29:42 AM »
Do the points carry to MI? I know it does not carry the other way.
You need to ask a MI attorney. You can ask for free info under the free consultation offer. Talk to MI attorney who deals with traffic law, call for a consultation and ask if NY tickets transfer to MI. If they do you want to fight the ticket in NY, if it doesn't and you don't carry a commercial driver's license just pay it at dmv.ny.gov.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1641 on: March 02, 2015, 07:56:47 AM »
I'm not sure if this was posted earlier but I'm not reading 110 pages of people speeding and making illegal left turns.

A friend of mine said he heard that if you get a ticket for X dollars and send them a check for a X+3 dollars, they will send you back a check for the 3 dollars. Here's the fun part... as long as you do not cash that check they cannot close the case against you and you points do not post.

I have no way of verifying if this actually works b'h have no tickets to try it on. Obviously fighting it would be your 1st option but if all else fails...

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1642 on: March 02, 2015, 09:11:52 AM »
I'm not sure if this was posted earlier but I'm not reading 110 pages of people speeding and making illegal left turns.

A friend of mine said he heard that if you get a ticket for X dollars and send them a check for a X+3 dollars, they will send you back a check for the 3 dollars. Here's the fun part... as long as you do not cash that check they cannot close the case against you and you points do not post.

I have no way of verifying if this actually works b'h have no tickets to try it on. Obviously fighting it would be your 1st option but if all else fails...
interesting, I have not seem that mentioned anywhere upthread
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1643 on: March 02, 2015, 12:49:18 PM »
interesting, I have not seem that mentioned anywhere upthread
I have heard if this before. But do not know of any specific stories where it did/didn't work

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1644 on: March 02, 2015, 07:00:32 PM »

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1645 on: March 02, 2015, 11:28:30 PM »

I have heard if this before. But do not know of any specific stories where it did/didn't work
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1646 on: March 03, 2015, 12:38:15 PM »
Got pulled over and got a ticket for
making a left turn on Nostrand Ave onto Flatbush Ave (on the intersection next to Target) , didn't see any signs for no left turn allowed , bus was blocking me. Anyone know what my best way of fighting this and possibly getting the points off?
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Update: I believe this is where I made the left turn.  I dont see any signs- they must've added signs

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1647 on: March 03, 2015, 12:39:16 PM »
Got pulled over and got a ticket.
Made a left turn on Nostrand Ave onto Flatbush Ave (on the intersection next to Target) , didn't see any signs, bus was blocking me. Anyone know what my best way of fighting this and possibly getting the points off?
TIA
You didn't tell us what the ticket was for
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1648 on: March 03, 2015, 12:41:04 PM »
You didn't tell us what the ticket was for
He said turns aren't allowed

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1649 on: March 03, 2015, 12:50:04 PM »
Got pulled over and got a ticket for
making a left turn on Nostrand Ave onto Flatbush Ave (on the intersection next to Target) , didn't see any signs for no left turn allowed , bus was blocking me. Anyone know what my best way of fighting this and possibly getting the points off?
TIA
1) postpone as long as possible 2) if you decide to fight the only defense I would use is that you don't travel there often and the bus blocked your view of the sign

3) if all else fails try my method above

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1650 on: March 03, 2015, 12:54:37 PM »
1) postpone as long as possible 2) if you decide to fight the only defense I would use is that you don't travel there often and the bus blocked your view of the sign

3) if all else fails try my method above
Which method above

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1651 on: March 03, 2015, 12:56:48 PM »
I'm not sure if this was posted earlier but I'm not reading 110 pages of people speeding and making illegal left turns.

A friend of mine said he heard that if you get a ticket for X dollars and send them a check for a X+3 dollars, they will send you back a check for the 3 dollars. Here's the fun part... as long as you do not cash that check they cannot close the case against you and you points do not post.

I have no way of verifying if this actually works b'h have no tickets to try it on. Obviously fighting it would be your 1st option but if all else fails...

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1652 on: March 03, 2015, 03:13:00 PM »
I'm not sure if this was posted earlier but I'm not reading 110 pages of people speeding and making illegal left turns.

A friend of mine said he heard that if you get a ticket for X dollars and send them a check for a X+3 dollars, they will send you back a check for the 3 dollars. Here's the fun part... as long as you do not cash that check they cannot close the case against you and you points do not post.

I have no way of verifying if this actually works b'h have no tickets to try it on. Obviously fighting it would be your 1st option but if all else fails...

Tell me you did not just repost this and advise him to do this?  This is such a classic case where snopes first then post.
http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/ticket.asp
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1653 on: March 03, 2015, 03:23:21 PM »


Tell me you did not just repost this and advise him to do this?  This is such a classic case where snopes first then post.
snopes does not say anything concrete as far as I was able to tell they said good chance it won't work. I suggested him pushing it off and then fighting. If he losses then he has nothing more to lose by trying this method... disagree?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1654 on: March 03, 2015, 03:30:30 PM »


Tell me you did not just repost this and advise him to do this?  This is such a classic case where snopes first then post.
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Claim:   Slightly overpaying the fine for a traffic ticket will keep points off your driving record.






   FALSE
...
You have to wonder about a "very reliable computer company" that puts a glaring loophole in its customers' systems, then tells the world about it. The fact is, every state does not use a "standard database" set up by a single company. (Even if any state's system did have such a loophole, they've now had three years' worth of people circulating this message on the Internet to warn them about it.)

Some people assert they've tried this scheme and it worked, and though it's certainly possible some people who overpaid their traffic tickets never saw any points go on their records, most likely that was a result of coincidence, not cause-and-effect. As most anyone who's dealt with the DMV knows, things do slip through the cracks now and then, just rarely in your favor. If you feel that spending three extra dollars in the hopes of keeping a ticket off your record is a worthwhile gamble, go ahead and try it. You're likely to be disappointed with the results, though.
If it has worked, it's a classic case of Post hoc ergo propter hoc
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1655 on: March 03, 2015, 03:35:36 PM »
If it has worked, it's a classic case of Post hoc ergo propter hoc
what?

PS if chuck read the wiki then he wldnt have done FT method...

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1656 on: March 03, 2015, 03:45:24 PM »
I'm not sure if this was posted earlier but I'm not reading 110 pages of people speeding and making illegal left turns.

A friend of mine said he heard that if you get a ticket for X dollars and send them a check for a X+3 dollars, they will send you back a check for the 3 dollars. Here's the fun part... as long as you do not cash that check they cannot close the case against you and you points do not post.

I have no way of verifying if this actually works b'h have no tickets to try it on. Obviously fighting it would be your 1st option but if all else fails...

gosh if this is true.....

ok whos trying it first?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1657 on: March 03, 2015, 03:48:32 PM »
gosh if this is true.....

ok whos trying it first?
I find it hard to believe that no one has a ticket they need to pay sometime soon... if thats the case maybe I'll hang out by traffic court on Friday and pass this info along to some unfortunates on the way out

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1658 on: March 03, 2015, 03:52:02 PM »
what?

http://bit.ly/GWgXz6

Since I paid $3 more for my ticket and never cashed the check and did not get any points, I therefore did not get the points because I never cashed the check.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1659 on: March 03, 2015, 03:58:50 PM »
http://bit.ly/GWgXz6

Since I paid $3 more for my ticket and never cashed the check and did not get any points, I therefore did not get the points because I never cashed the check.
1- being that latin isnt my 1st language I thought you misspelled a word or 2 (my bad) 2- it doesn't say in any definite way that this for sure doesnt work, only that the claims that it DOES work are not conclusive.

3- snopes' logic that it CANT work is flawed, he assumes it's a computer glitch and that they wouldnt let it go unnoticed for so long. What if it a problem practically, that they cannot close a case with an outstanding balance or credit?