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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3880 on: July 03, 2023, 11:45:05 PM »
If you go to court they will probably throw out at least one of the tickets (probably the fictitious plates one).



On another note, it is outrageous that in NJ they can tow your car for registration. It is an old law on the books to avoid having abandoned cars on the streets, and the cops abuse it par excellence.
I hear that.
 I'm leaving towards going to court on my own. And hoping for the best.
 Yes that incident with my car being towed costed me an additional $320 plus paid $100 for an uber to bring my title to me to register it on the spot so I can have my car to get to my destination for shabbos. (The $100 uber was a bust being that the MVC was closed).

  Costly expense going unregistered..
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3881 on: July 04, 2023, 12:38:23 AM »
The only reason to maybe get a lawyer is if your record is not good. They can usually get it down to obstruction of traffic (a non-moving violation). but it'll cost you over $500 dollars usually.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3882 on: July 04, 2023, 01:23:13 AM »
The only reason to maybe get a lawyer is if your record is not good. They can usually get it down to obstruction of traffic (a non-moving violation). but it'll cost you over $500 dollars usually.
I'll glady pay if I know they'll be able to do that. From what I heard. They said they can push it to a no point ticket which is still a moving violation but no points and carries a hefty 440 Fee and court fees.
 So no thank you for a lawyer if that's all they're doing.
The lawyers all wanted from $225-400 range.

 I bh have a clean record with no tickets bli a"h.
 So I may just aim for the tickets to get dismissed or to a 2 point ticket and take a defensive driving course to remove the other two.  But the moving violation part is what's annoying should it effect my insurance rates.

 Unless I can get them to totally wipe the ticket away being that I made a turn starting from the center lane vs being in the left turning lane. Crazy that the officer threw the book at me. As if he never did that, realizing last min he needed to make a turn in a place he's never been before and not familiar with the roads.
 
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3883 on: July 04, 2023, 07:35:44 AM »
The ticket was issued in this state:NY
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City: Richmond (NYC)
I have a license from this state:
Regular or Commercial license:NY
Ticket one: FLD SIGNAL LANE CHG
Ticket two(ex):
Accident?:no
I want information on "do it yourself": yes
I want information on "hire an attorney":yes
I want both:yes
Violation date is 07/09/2021
Court date is 7/15/22
Should I push off again or no point.
 Main thing is I don't want points (it comes with 2)
update: after pushing it off another year and contacting a few lawyers all saying no point wasting my money not really a chance they could do anything special I joined the zoom hearing and cop wasn't available and ticket was dismissed TYH

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3884 on: July 06, 2023, 06:57:47 AM »
I'll glady pay if I know they'll be able to do that. From what I heard. They said they can push it to a no point ticket which is still a moving violation but no points and carries a hefty 440 Fee and court fees.
 So no thank you for a lawyer if that's all they're doing.
The lawyers all wanted from $225-400 range.

 I bh have a clean record with no tickets bli a"h.
 So I may just aim for the tickets to get dismissed or to a 2 point ticket and take a defensive driving course to remove the other two.  But the moving violation part is what's annoying should it effect my insurance rates.

 Unless I can get them to totally wipe the ticket away being that I made a turn starting from the center lane vs being in the left turning lane. Crazy that the officer threw the book at me. As if he never did that, realizing last min he needed to make a turn in a place he's never been before and not familiar with the roads.
You don't need a lawyer for a plea bargain, you can do that yourself.
They won't dismiss the ticket when it's your word against the cop's, even if you have a stellar record.

Also, do you have a NJ license or other state?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3885 on: July 06, 2023, 02:14:34 PM »
You don't need a lawyer for a plea bargain, you can do that yourself.
They won't dismiss the ticket when it's your word against the cop's, even if you have a stellar record.

Also, do you have a NJ license or other state?
Just switched over to a NJ license not long ago.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3886 on: July 06, 2023, 02:42:30 PM »
The only reason to maybe get a lawyer is if your record is not good. They can usually get it down to obstruction of traffic (a non-moving violation). but it'll cost you over $500 dollars usually.
Lawyers are a waste of money for such things.
You can plea bargain your self in NJ with the prosecutor.

If things arenít going the way you want, you can ask for an injunction, till you hire a lawyer.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3887 on: July 06, 2023, 02:43:40 PM »
Just switched over to a NJ license not long ago.
Why would you do that?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3888 on: July 06, 2023, 02:45:28 PM »
Why would you do that?

 Just made things easier being that I moved to NJ and living in NJ and bought a new car, insurance and all. Though I'm sure even with my NY license I could have done it all or even under my wife's name who's license is NJ.
 I can always switch back to NY need be. Though not sure if that helps.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3889 on: July 06, 2023, 02:48:28 PM »

 Just made things easier being that I moved to NJ and living in NJ and bought a new car, insurance and all. Though I'm sure even with my NY license I could have done it all or even under my wife's name who's license is NJ.
 I can always switch back to NY need be. Though not sure if that helps.
If you have a NY license and NJ insurance, points donít affect your rates I believe.

Also with a NY license, the judge canít see your record.

You can have insurance registration, etc. in NJ, with a New York license no problem.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3890 on: July 06, 2023, 02:49:42 PM »
If you have a NY license and NJ insurance, points don’t affect your rates I believe.

Also with a NY license, the judge can’t see your record.

You can have insurance registration, etc. I’m NJ, with a New York license no problem.
I have a clean record BH. Besides for this one silly ticket.

 I guess I'll schedule the virtual court date and hope for the best beh.
 Or if there's a point in pushing it off. I would if there's a way for me to do it for the next few years.
 But I Never really understood how it works doesn't insurance see that you got a moving violation.  Being that you have a moving violation on your record. Even though the court date never happened you still were issued a fine.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3891 on: July 26, 2023, 10:36:17 PM »
I have a clean record BH. Besides for this one silly ticket.
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Keyword one ticket. Rates can go up for that.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3892 on: July 28, 2023, 12:23:56 AM »
Keyword one ticket. Rates can go up for that.
Ended plea bargaining on my own
 Took the 0 point plea bargain for $250 Surcharge,  (not sure if 2 points was a better idea and dod a defensive driving course.)
dismissed registration ticket and changed fictitious plates to covered plates at $80 or so. About $400-500 in total fees. And without a lawyer.
 Bh took care of it. And will have to be careful for the next 5 years driving not to incur any fines or tickets.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3893 on: July 28, 2023, 03:02:21 AM »
Ended plea bargaining on my own
 Took the 0 point plea bargain for $250 Surcharge,  (not sure if 2 points was a better idea and dod a defensive driving course.)
dismissed registration ticket and changed fictitious plates to covered plates at $80 or so. About $400-500 in total fees. And without a lawyer.
 Bh took care of it. And will have to be careful for the next 5 years driving not to incur any fines or tickets.
My point still stands.
You should have never switched your license over.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3894 on: August 09, 2023, 10:05:50 PM »
Got a speeding ticket in Quebec with a NY license. if I plead not guilty, does anyone know if there an option for a video call court hearing, or must I come in person?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3895 on: August 19, 2023, 10:38:05 PM »
Anyone here used OffTheRecord for a NYC ticket (improper U-Turn).

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3896 on: August 20, 2023, 04:12:28 PM »
Anyone here used OffTheRecord for a NYC ticket (improper U-Turn).
I used Zev Goldstein for that ticket in NYC and it was dismissed. Don't have any idea why it was dismissed, but it was worth the $400 for me.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3897 on: August 20, 2023, 08:20:37 PM »
I used Zev Goldstein for that ticket in NYC and it was dismissed. Don't have any idea why it was dismissed, but it was worth the $400 for me.
cop didn't show up most likely did he have a guarantee no payment if you don't win?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3898 on: August 20, 2023, 09:39:34 PM »
Is it illegal to hold a book (siddur etc ) while driving in NY/NJ?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3899 on: August 23, 2023, 11:11:33 PM »
did he have a guarantee no payment if you don't win?
No. That's a great way to go out of business.
The only way there can be a guarantee is if the kangaroo court judge/clerk etc. accepts bribes.