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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2021, 01:26:49 PM »
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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2021, 03:01:51 PM »
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2021, 08:00:23 PM »
https://go.bhol.co.il/wvmxCk
Again with this same foolish approach?

Reminds me of;
?שואל: אפשר לסלק מהכולל אברך ששולח בתו לגן ילדים ממפלגת עץ"
                                                                "הגר׳׳ח: נכון


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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #45 on: February 15, 2021, 09:35:40 PM »
Again with this same foolish approach?

Reminds me of;
?שואל: אפשר לסלק מהכולל אברך ששולח בתו לגן ילדים ממפלגת עץ"
                                                                "הגר׳׳ח: נכון
It's very different, RMH discusses every question in granular detail and is in many cases the go-to gadol for Israeli Roshei Yeshivos.
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #46 on: February 16, 2021, 01:01:42 AM »
It's very different, RMH discusses every question in granular detail and is in many cases the go-to gadol for Israeli Roshei Yeshivos.
So you really believe he literally said that unvaccinated yungerleit should be expelled from kollelim moving forward? I don't buy into that. In any case, it's just the stupid Israeli style of collecting statements from old roshei yeshivos on all the contemporary issues they want to push forward.

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #47 on: February 16, 2021, 01:19:16 AM »

So you really believe he literally said that unvaccinated yungerleit should be expelled from kollelim moving forward? I don't buy into that. In any case, it's just the stupid Israeli style of collecting statements from old roshei yeshivos on all the contemporary issues they want to push forward.
He said they can expel them if they want to, not that they should.

RMH isnt your typical old Rosh Yeshiva, he is very with and up to date on current events.

I agree with your sentiment, I just think its misplaced in this case
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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #48 on: February 16, 2021, 02:51:12 AM »
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #49 on: February 16, 2021, 10:22:18 AM »
rabbi yerusalvsky speaking about vaccine in second half of letter

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #50 on: February 16, 2021, 11:16:09 AM »
Oh
My filter blocked the image on ur post so I only see now that it's a repost ;)

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #51 on: February 16, 2021, 04:50:10 PM »
Chief Rabbi Yitzchak Yosef says women should not be machmir this year to hear Zachor, so as to avoid congregating. This year they can rely on the opinions in halacha that exempt women from hearing Zachor. Women who normally go to hear Zachor do not need hataras nedarim this year.

This was issued in Israel

https://vosizneias.com/2021/02/16/sephardic-chief-rabbi-women-are-exempt-from-zachor-men-should-make-multiple-readings/
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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #52 on: February 16, 2021, 08:39:09 PM »
Chief Rabbi Yitzchak Yosef says women should not be machmir this year to hear Zachor, so as to avoid congregating. This year they can rely on the opinions in halacha that exempt women from hearing Zachor. Women who normally go to hear Zachor do not need hataras nedarim this year.

This was issued in Israel

https://vosizneias.com/2021/02/16/sephardic-chief-rabbi-women-are-exempt-from-zachor-men-should-make-multiple-readings/
More details here: https://www.bahazit.co.il/%D7%A0%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%94%D7%A9%D7%A0%D7%94-%D7%90%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%9F-%D7%A6%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9B%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%9C%D7%A9%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%A2-%D7%A4%D7%A8%D7%A9%D7%AA-%D7%96%D7%9B%D7%95%D7%A8

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #53 on: February 16, 2021, 10:14:06 PM »
Chief Rabbi Yitzchak Yosef says women should not be machmir this year to hear Zachor, so as to avoid congregating. This year they can rely on the opinions in halacha that exempt women from hearing Zachor. Women who normally go to hear Zachor do not need hataras nedarim this year.

This was issued in Israel

https://vosizneias.com/2021/02/16/sephardic-chief-rabbi-women-are-exempt-from-zachor-men-should-make-multiple-readings/
Presumably, they should at least read it from a Chumash, IIRC according to many (most?) opinions that is sufficient.
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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #54 on: February 16, 2021, 10:42:52 PM »
Presumably, they should at least read it from a Chumash, IIRC according to many (most?) opinions that is sufficient.
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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #55 on: February 16, 2021, 11:29:12 PM »
Chief Rabbi Yitzchak Yosef says women should not be machmir this year to hear Zachor, so as to avoid congregating. This year they can rely on the opinions in halacha that exempt women from hearing Zachor. Women who normally go to hear Zachor do not need hataras nedarim this year.

This was issued in Israel

https://vosizneias.com/2021/02/16/sephardic-chief-rabbi-women-are-exempt-from-zachor-men-should-make-multiple-readings/
By us its not the minhag for woman to go listen to zachur (they can still do it if it makes them feel better about it)

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #56 on: February 16, 2021, 11:31:36 PM »
By us its not the minhag for woman to go listen to zachur (they can still do it if it makes them feel better about it)
Us means your family or a particular community? If so, which?

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #57 on: February 16, 2021, 11:32:06 PM »
By us its not the minhag for woman to go listen to zachur (they can still do it if it makes them feel better about it)
Is there somebody who holds it isn't at least a מצווה קיומית for women?
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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #58 on: February 16, 2021, 11:39:02 PM »
Is there somebody who holds it isn't at least a מצווה קיומית for women?
no clue
quick google
https://www.yeshiva.co/midrash/27338

I can do more research
I heard it in the context of why there shouldn't be a special קריאה for woman
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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #59 on: February 16, 2021, 11:41:27 PM »
no clue
quick google
https://www.yeshiva.co/midrash/27338

I can do more research
I heard it in the context of why there shouldn't be a special קריאה for woman
Yeah I understand, I just think the wording of 'can still do it if it makes them feel better about it' may have been a bit of a misnomer considering it is a mitzvah.
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים