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Re: Tucker/Putin Interview
« Reply #40 on: September 04, 2024, 04:26:04 PM »
I am sure it was as horrific as people say. That doesn't make it wrong.

He is parodying the Holocaust deniers claims about the Holocaust.

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Re: Tucker/Putin Interview
« Reply #41 on: September 04, 2024, 04:32:37 PM »
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1831405270544871681
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Re: Tucker/Putin Interview
« Reply #42 on: September 04, 2024, 04:33:14 PM »
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Re: Tucker/Putin Interview
« Reply #43 on: September 04, 2024, 04:36:45 PM »
Think he will learn a lesson from this?
Too much ADHD.

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Re: Tucker/Putin Interview
« Reply #44 on: September 04, 2024, 04:41:58 PM »

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Re: Tucker/Putin Interview
« Reply #45 on: September 04, 2024, 05:07:01 PM »
Think he will learn a lesson from this?

I didn't listen to even one second of it, so I can't say, but if this interview is as moronic as it is being made out to be, what could he have possibly heard that was "interesting" that was "worth watching"? Based on the time stamps in the quoted tweet, Musk listened to a Nazi sympathizer's opinion on the history of the Israel-Palestine conflict, thought that was interesting enough to tell millions it was worth watching, but then discovered the guy didn't like Churchill and was like, "Whoa! Too far!"

So no, I don't think he learned any lesson

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Re: Tucker/Putin Interview
« Reply #46 on: September 04, 2024, 05:23:16 PM »
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Re: Tucker/Putin Interview
« Reply #47 on: September 04, 2024, 05:40:14 PM »
I didn't listen to even one second of it, so I can't say, but if this interview is as moronic as it is being made out to be, what could he have possibly heard that was "interesting" that was "worth watching"? Based on the time stamps in the quoted tweet, Musk listened to a Nazi sympathizer's opinion on the history of the Israel-Palestine conflict, thought that was interesting enough to tell millions it was worth watching, but then discovered the guy didn't like Churchill and was like, "Whoa! Too far!"

So no, I don't think he learned any lesson
Israel Palestine talk didn't address the topic at all.

It addressed his method of researching the topic.
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Re: Tucker/Putin Interview
« Reply #48 on: September 04, 2024, 05:57:58 PM »
Tucker worries me much more then Elon.
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Re: Tucker/Putin Interview
« Reply #49 on: September 04, 2024, 05:59:53 PM »
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Re: Tucker/Putin Interview
« Reply #50 on: September 04, 2024, 09:59:52 PM »
Tucker worries me much more then Elon.

Agree.

In the "radically pro-free speech" world, there are two different approaches, that while looking similar are very different.

The first is that free speech is good because it leads to finding the truth, or because the alternative is worse. This seems to be the approach that Elon believes in. Under this view, interviewing Putin is justifiable. It can even be appropriate to allow this "historian" to express his views (on Twitter for example), because that allows people to see how idiotic his arguments are (as in the community note posted above).

The other approach is that free speech is inherently good, not because of a desired outcome. By this view, the more criticism or suppression someone gets, the more important it is to listen to what they say. This is the approach Tucker is taking, which leads him to believe that since this guy is saying things that are "forbidden" that inherently makes what he says good and correct.

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Re: Tucker/Putin Interview
« Reply #51 on: September 04, 2024, 10:36:51 PM »
Agree.

In the "radically pro-free speech" world, there are two different approaches, that while looking similar are very different.

The first is that free speech is good because it leads to finding the truth, or because the alternative is worse. This seems to be the approach that Elon believes in. Under this view, interviewing Putin is justifiable. It can even be appropriate to allow this "historian" to express his views (on Twitter for example), because that allows people to see how idiotic his arguments are (as in the community note posted above).

The other approach is that free speech is inherently good, not because of a desired outcome. By this view, the more criticism or suppression someone gets, the more important it is to listen to what they say. This is the approach Tucker is taking, which leads him to believe that since this guy is saying things that are "forbidden" that inherently makes what he says good and correct.
Do you really believe that Tucker sincerely believes that? He is not that stupid. He's just evil enough to pretend he's stupid when he's not.

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Re: Tucker/Putin Interview
« Reply #52 on: September 04, 2024, 10:50:05 PM »
Since we're talking about cuckoo anti semites with a big audience here:

https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1831511198539657236

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Re: Tucker/Putin Interview
« Reply #53 on: September 04, 2024, 11:31:22 PM »
Since you posted it here, RFK Jr also post lots of Tucker stuff, just saying.
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Re: Tucker/Putin Interview
« Reply #54 on: September 04, 2024, 11:36:46 PM »
I am sure it was as horrific as people say. That doesn't make it wrong.

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Re: Tucker/Putin Interview
« Reply #55 on: September 06, 2024, 11:04:38 AM »
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