2022 Midterm Elections

[zh cohen]

The whole pro-choice/pro-life is non-sense. Both sides believe in both.

These terms have had a specific meaning for decades. I know it has become popular lately to redefine words (like recession) but to have an honest conversation we have to first agree what the words we say mean.

[CountValentine]

...but to have an honest conversation we have to first agree what the words we say mean.

Hello anyone home? 

[imayid2]

Wait a minute. Abortion is not ok when the life of the mother is in danger? Any state that has an exception to allow an abortion can't be pro-life?

I meant those who think it’s ok in all cases. That’s what Roe forced and that’s what pro choicers advocate for.

[CountValentine]

I meant those who think it’s ok in all cases. That’s what Roe forced and that’s what pro choicers advocate for.

So ok in some cases makes you a little bit pregnant? 

[imayid2]

If I’m pro choice why do I disagree with the Kansas voters. Is it because they are pro life?
This is so confusing.

[CountValentine]

If I’m pro choice why do I disagree with the Kansas voters. Is it because they are pro life?
This is so confusing.

I am confused how someone can be pro-life but are ok with killing innocent babies in certain situations.
At least we agree on the confusing part. 

[imayid2]

I am confused how someone can be pro-life but are ok with killing innocent babies in certain situations.
At least we agree on the confusing part. 

So what’s your definition of that opinion and how do you define people who want abortion as a fundamental right?

[CountValentine]

So what’s your definition of that opinion and how do you define people who want abortion as a fundamental right?

A person who is against having an abortion is pro-life.
How about a father that tells his daughter it is her choice, but it goes against our religion, beliefs, morals and she should not have it done? Is he pro-choice?

[zh cohen]

A person who is against having an abortion is pro-life.
How about a father that tells his daughter it is her choice, but it goes against our religion, beliefs, morals and she should not have it done? Is he pro-choice?

If he advocates for or support laws that make it her choice, then yes.

[CountValentine]

If he advocates for or support laws that make it her choice, then yes.

It is the law in their state. Is he pro-life?

[imayid2]

It is the law in their state. Is he pro-life?

If it is the law in his state, then why does he need to tell her it’s her choice? It already is her choice.

[CountValentine]

If it is the law in his state, then why does he need to tell her it’s her choice? It already is her choice.

He is being honest with his daughter. The question remains. Is he pro-life or would you call him pro-choice?

[imayid2]

He is being honest with his daughter. The question remains.

So to clarify, someone is against an abortion, strongly advices and encourages against it, but informs the person of the existing legalities in that state which permit it.
Is that the question?

[CountValentine]

So to clarify, someone is against an abortion, strongly advices and encourages against it, but informs the person of the existing legalities in that state which permit it.
Is that the question?

Sure let's start there.

[zh cohen]

It is the law in their state. Is he pro-life?

You haven't given us enough information to know. Does he think the law should be changed?

[imayid2]

You haven't given us enough information to know. Does he think the law should be changed?

+1

[CountValentine]

Pro life.

Now how about if believes all these decisions (abortion, vaccine mandates, sex and a bunch of other stuff) the government should stay out of? Is he still a pro-life person?

[CountValentine]

You haven't given us enough information to know. Does he think the law should be changed?

Now how about if believes all these decisions (abortion, vaccine mandates, sex and a bunch of other stuff) the government should stay out of? Is he still a pro-life person?

[imayid2]

Now how about if believes all these decisions (abortion, vaccine mandates, sex and a bunch of other stuff) the government should stay out of? Is he still a pro-life person?

Not in the sense the terminology is generally used.

[CountValentine]

Not in the sense the terminology is generally used.

The way the terminology is used makes no sense that is why we are having this exercise, no?

Just so you understand my position is I call the father pro-life.