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Re: Midterm Elections
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #222 on: August 23, 2022, 08:13:28 PM »
Happy we at least clarified it is there.
Context and understanding is everything. Nowhere in the Bible does it give him the right to kill gay people unlike the Amalekites.  ;)

Bottom line is the guy is a nutcase for saying it and more importantly believing it.
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #223 on: August 23, 2022, 08:29:37 PM »
Nowhere in the Bible does it give him the right to kill gay people
He din't say it did. He said
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ignoring as a nation things that are worthy of death is very remiss
Historically many states had capital punishment as a criminal punishment for homosexuality.

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #224 on: August 23, 2022, 08:33:55 PM »
He din't say it did.
I believe he said the Bible gives him/us the right to kill. You could fact check as I wasted more than enough time on this nutcase!
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #225 on: August 23, 2022, 08:35:50 PM »
Context and understanding is everything.

For-sure. Which is why I'm curious about this:
Ahh so you're referencing the abrogation of the law of Moses correct?

Not really familiar with it, is it agreed upon by all Christians (all sects)? If yes they all agree it works the same way?
If it is universal then I'd better understand calling him a nutcase.

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #226 on: August 23, 2022, 08:41:02 PM »
I believe he said the Bible gives him/us the right to kill. You could fact check as I wasted more than enough time on this nutcase!
He said "we would be totally in the right to do it".
Bibically speaking, that is true.

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #227 on: August 23, 2022, 08:46:18 PM »
For-sure. Which is why I'm curious about this:If it is universal then I'd better understand calling him a nutcase.
Best to answer it this way. IMHO it is universally accepted that no person has the right to take another persons life. When you involved the government it is less universal.   
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #228 on: August 23, 2022, 08:50:19 PM »
Best to answer it this way. IMHO it is universally accepted that no person has the right to take another persons life. When you involved the government it is less universal.
He was clearly talking about government, not extrajudicial killings.

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #229 on: August 23, 2022, 08:55:09 PM »
He was clearly talking about government, not extrajudicial killings.
I am not so sure about that.
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #230 on: August 23, 2022, 08:57:54 PM »
Best to answer it this way. IMHO it is universally accepted that no person has the right to take another persons life. When you involved the government it is less universal.

I understood him as imayid2 seems to be understanding him - that the government should enforce it. Not vigilantism like you're saying.

Perhaps if we're correct it opens up a whole other discussion about christian theocracy in USA which may have been discussed somewhere on DDF before?

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #231 on: August 23, 2022, 09:00:16 PM »
You're all taking it out of context.  Clearly he meant to be a "thread killer", stopping their conversation dead in its tracks:

"Scott Esk was campaigning for a different seat in 2013 when he said that according to the Bible, Christians would be “totally in the right” to kill gay people in a Facebook comment thread."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/oklahoma-gop-candidate-calls-killing-gay-people-totally-just/ar-AA110fWA?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=9295076aaffe4a38b4c7d4fde233654f
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #232 on: August 23, 2022, 09:00:21 PM »
I am not so sure about that.
He was responding to a question about if we should "execute" them.
No reason at all to define that as in an extrajudicial killing.
Unless you have an agenda otherwise?

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #233 on: August 23, 2022, 09:02:07 PM »
"Scott Esk was campaigning for a different seat in 2013 when he said that according to the Bible, Christians would be “totally in the right” to kill gay people in a Facebook comment thread."
That isn't what he said.

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #234 on: August 23, 2022, 09:03:06 PM »
"Scott Esk was campaigning for a different seat in 2013 when he said that according to the Bible, Christians would be “totally in the right” to kill gay people in a Facebook comment thread."
He meant a Christian government.  :)
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #235 on: August 23, 2022, 09:03:33 PM »
https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1061&context=englishfacpubs
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in 1776 male homosexuals in the original 13 colonies were
universally subject to the death penalty,
Just saying.

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #236 on: August 23, 2022, 09:06:04 PM »
The guy is nutcase with those views. Lets move on. I have a bunch more of nutcases to post about.
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #237 on: August 23, 2022, 09:06:35 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_States#cite_note-4
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Prior to 1962, sodomy was a felony in every state, punished by a lengthy term of imprisonment and/or hard labor.
We had a Christian Government in every state until 1962?
Everyone was nutcases then?

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #238 on: August 23, 2022, 09:07:46 PM »
Just saying.
What about killing blacks?
Just asking.
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #239 on: August 23, 2022, 09:12:57 PM »
What about killing blacks?
Just asking.
So sodomy laws are to be viewed as being equivalent to killing blacks?