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Should I toivel in the Berezina or in regular mikvah before Shabbos/YT?

Berezina
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Regular mikvah
1 (11.1%)
Berezina on YT morning
3 (33.3%)

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Voting closed: April 13, 2024, 07:31:27 AM

Author Topic: ExGingi's 3 generation wedding & Pesach trip to Russia.  (Read 26109 times)

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Re: ExGingi's 3 generation wedding & Pesach trip to Russia.
« Reply #260 on: May 06, 2024, 08:01:59 PM »
What happened?

Just realized that I never really described it, so here goes:

One thing that struck me odd when I got the tickets booked, was that on the outbound flights we arrive in CAI terminal 3 and switch to terminal 2 for the flight to DME, while on the return it is all terminal 3.

Once I was in CAI, the reason became evident. The terminal switch required passing through a security checkpoint, and there was a separate checkpoint for flights to Russia. We landed in CAI before 6am, and the flight to Russia wasn't scheduled until 10:30am. I don't know if there were any other flights between CAI and Russia, but apparently having a flight at 10:30am doesn't justify opening the checkpoint that early. So upon our arrival at the checkpoint, we were told that we need to wait another half an hour until the checkpoint opens. NOT FUN with young children and plenty of carry-on bags (we had lots of stuff that we didn't want to risk getting lost. Little did we know...)

After about an hour and half, the checkpoint finally "opened", a bunch of Egyptian, non-Eglish-speaking police officers manned the point. I was first on line, with my family right behind me. The police officer at the metal detector said we needed to put everything through the x-ray machine, including all Jewelry (metal) - not fun with young girls (actually a little traumatic). He then told me to remove my baseball cap and put it through, which I did, and then asked me to remove my Yarmulka and put it through. That was one step too much. I said no! DW told him it's a religious requirement, but he was insistent, and so was I. I was standing in front of him, looking him at his eyes, and wouldn't budge (blocking the entire line). I offered that I sand in place, he put the Yarmulka through while I wear the cap, and then bring it back to me so I can pass, but he said no. Eventually he relented and let me pass through the metal detector with the Yarmulka on my head.

Next came the officer who was looking at the x-ray machine. Any metallic or electric object was pulled out. Some were OK'd and then some became a topic for negotiation. 220/110 step down adapters were a point of argument. I explained that this is so I can plug in my American equipment, but they said, send it with the cargo. Eventually a higher ranking officer OK'd it. This repeated itself with the HotLogics, and several other items. I exclaimed at the higher ranking officer "Russia Majnoon" (thinking that all this hardship is at the instructions of the Russians), and he burst out laughing.

Then came the Silver Candlesticks we bought for my DIL. These are big metallic items. Must go to cargo. We argue, even the higher ranking officer wouldn't OK it. Eventually he called over a woman who seemed to be standing there nonchalantly, who OKd it. At that point I realized that the woman (and her "friend") were Russian agents looking over the security check.

After about 20 minutes or so, we cleared the checkpoint and headed to the gate (while I was desperate to head to the lounge for a shower). We arrived at an enclosed gate area, which was virtually unmanned at the time, and settled in. There was an upper level where the actual gate was, and then a lower level about 7 stairs down, where the waiting area and seats were. I grabbed my change of clothes and headed towards the Priority Pass lounge which had a shower ($10 per use).

Upon returning from the Shower, I saw a line outside the enclosed gate area, and the "friend" of the Russian agent from the prior security check roaming around the line. It seemed like my family had already gone through the ordeal. When I got there, the same crew (Egyptian police) that gave us the earlier security check was there again. This time without an x-ray machine or metal detector, just manually looking through bags. I didn't have a bag with me, as I had left mine behind with my family, and just had my change of clothes, and a few bottles of cold water I had brought from the lounge. The water was promptly confiscated, my dirty laundry was OKd, and I reunited with my family in the seating/waiting area, where I was told of their ordeal, and that my portable folding shtender was taken away (it was inspected at the earlier checkpoint).

Unfortunately, as a result of all of the above, an important piece of luggage, containing much of my married daughter's family clothes for the wedding was left behind (my guess is either right before or right after the security check between terminals). Needless to say, realizing this upon arrival in Ramenskoye wasn't fun! DW and SIL went into hyper action, and managed to get new shoes for the young kids, a kapote for my SIL, and several other items delivered to us before the wedding. Some items came from NY, some from EY, and some were ordered locally. My married daughter was so traumatized from the ordeal, that she told my SIL that she refuses to fly back through CAI. No matter how much I claimed that the return flight wouldn't have this kind of security check, as there's no terminal change, she would hear of nothing. Luckily cooler minds prevailed by the time we were ready to fly back (though she proclaimed she wouldn't fly EgyptAir again).

The strollers which were gate checked, and didn't show up at the gate upon landing in CAI, were supposed to show up with the luggage at DME. They didn't show up, a report was filed upon landing at DME (which forced DD to go through the RED customs line - she took DS along for translation). Strollers were eventually delivered a week later.

Unfortunately, we don't have a video of the ordeal.

My Daugher and SIL have an Allianz Annual Family travel insurance plan. I will bez"h report back when I find out how their claim gets resolved.
« Last Edit: May 06, 2024, 08:12:12 PM by ExGingi »
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Re: ExGingi's 3 generation wedding & Pesach trip to Russia.
« Reply #261 on: May 06, 2024, 09:12:48 PM »
Wow.
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Re: ExGingi's 3 generation wedding & Pesach trip to Russia.
« Reply #262 on: May 06, 2024, 11:01:22 PM »
In the following photo you can see the Russian agent congregating with some others (Egyptian? Russian?) after almost everyone cleared security at the gate area and are lined up for boarding.

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Re: ExGingi's 3 generation wedding & Pesach trip to Russia.
« Reply #263 on: May 06, 2024, 11:09:07 PM »
Mikvah is free at Marina Roshcha. Lockers available for rent on the cheap.





Very comfortable and durable benches in dressing area.



They got the floor right. Those tiles aren't slippery, it's a rough surface.

2 (Israeli style - full width steps) pools. One warm and the other hot. No filter that I could see. Water replaced daily.
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Re: ExGingi's 3 generation wedding & Pesach trip to Russia.
« Reply #264 on: May 06, 2024, 11:13:52 PM »
Behind the main structure of the Jewish community center (shul etc.) at Marina Roshcha, is another small structure that is built where the original shul was before it was destroyed by antisemites.

It houses a Bucharian shul, along with some rooms for shiurim. Here are some photos.




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Re: ExGingi's 3 generation wedding & Pesach trip to Russia.
« Reply #265 on: May 06, 2024, 11:19:08 PM »
At a G-Drive store (convenience store at a Gazprom station) top shelf right side has Тархун. And specially for @Dan they also have a large bottle on the bottom shelf.

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Re: ExGingi's 3 generation wedding & Pesach trip to Russia.
« Reply #266 on: May 06, 2024, 11:20:42 PM »
For Russians, drinks are available non-chilled.

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« Reply #267 on: May 06, 2024, 11:26:32 PM »
More or less full range of drinks. Red Bull is there. And Lipton ice tea. But no Coke or Pepsi.

In Russia there's nothing called Seltzer or Soda water. But almost any brand of bottled water comes in two versions: non-sparkling and sparkling. So unlike US convenience stores where unflavored Seltzer is a rarity, in Russia you are likely to find several brands of Sparkling water.

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Re: ExGingi's 3 generation wedding & Pesach trip to Russia.
« Reply #268 on: May 06, 2024, 11:31:03 PM »
This is the road from Rudnya to Lubavitch. Not the final stretch (which is in better condition) but going through one of the other villages on the way. A real bumpy ride.

Whether patched:



Or non-patched:

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Re: ExGingi's 3 generation wedding & Pesach trip to Russia.
« Reply #269 on: May 06, 2024, 11:32:21 PM »
Would you do your trip again?
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« Reply #270 on: May 06, 2024, 11:38:12 PM »
When we came to Lubavitch for the last days of Pesach, I saw an unusual scene. The parking lot was full. I then realized it was Sunday and they were all attending church. The building looks quite delapitated, but apparently it is functioning and has some kind of a landmark designation that makes renovations problematic.



Unlike in Moscow, Ladas had a respective representation here. The Soviet era ones were easy to spot, but there were also more modern models, such as this 4x4.





A little after noon the parking lot had emptied out, and Lubavitch was back to it's more normal self.
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Re: ExGingi's 3 generation wedding & Pesach trip to Russia.
« Reply #271 on: May 06, 2024, 11:44:50 PM »
This time I had lots of company when I went to the Berezina. Besides DS, there were another 3 or 4 Bochurim (Gordon's sons and their friend). There was no breeze, and the water level was significantly higher (the concrete platform and steps were mostly under water, I don't think I even reached the wooden steps). I am told that there was lots of rain earlier in the week, so it might be that, or maybe related to the lunar cycle (I don't know if that affects rivers too).

In any event, it was much easier this time around. When I was out and saw others in there, I noticed the color of the water, so I went back to take the picture.

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« Reply #272 on: May 06, 2024, 11:46:53 PM »
The חצר has its own flock of sheep, which the kids enjoyed playing with.

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Re: ExGingi's 3 generation wedding & Pesach trip to Russia.
« Reply #273 on: May 06, 2024, 11:51:04 PM »
Egyptair flight from DME to CAI. Business class was empty. Flight attendants mostly did not bother us when my kids came to talk to us or spend some time, until my teenage son actually got permission from one flight attendant to sit in an unoccupied seat, but made himself a little too comfortable and noticed, so another flight attendant sent him to the back of the bus.

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Re: ExGingi's 3 generation wedding & Pesach trip to Russia.
« Reply #274 on: May 06, 2024, 11:57:58 PM »
KSML ex DME. Notice the expiration dates. It might be Lubavitcher Shechita, but I didn't want to get sick. Some of the family in economy got KFP meals, while others got Chometz. הצד השווה שביניהם was expired dates and/or spoiled food.













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Re: ExGingi's 3 generation wedding & Pesach trip to Russia.
« Reply #275 on: May 07, 2024, 12:01:14 AM »
The origin wasn't the only thing wrong on the flight details display on the IFE system.



While BRU and CAI are different time zones, it shows the same time. But other displays that said "time in Moscow" had it as a different time than "time in Cairo" despite both being in the same time zone.
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« Reply #276 on: May 07, 2024, 12:08:05 AM »
EgyptAir has Pepsi soft drinks (I wonder if this is a remanent of the Arab boycott times, when there was a Coke franchise in EY, but not Pepsi).

So for me it was Sparkling Aquafina.



Production date on bottom of can.



If the lot number can use standard (western) numerals, why can't the production date? (It reads right-to-left 23/11/05 - November 5th 2023).
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Re: ExGingi's 3 generation wedding & Pesach trip to Russia.
« Reply #277 on: May 07, 2024, 12:12:45 AM »
Jewish owned properties have the street name in Hebrew too.



While non-Jewish houses have it in Russian only.



It was rather odd to see Ул. Шнеерсона written using a font that one would associate with Church Slavonic. (Sorry no picture)
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Re: ExGingi's 3 generation wedding & Pesach trip to Russia.
« Reply #278 on: May 07, 2024, 12:15:48 AM »
The Goy at 6 (or maybe 8, there's no number on his house, so I had to guesstimate) Chabadskaya street got fed up with visitors touching his well, so he had someone write a message that visitors could easily understand.

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Re: ExGingi's 3 generation wedding & Pesach trip to Russia.
« Reply #279 on: May 07, 2024, 12:17:48 AM »
Would you do your trip again?

What are you asking about?

Going for Pesach? No!

Though I don't regret staying there for Pesach, as the goal was to ease the transition for my son, rather than leave him there right after Sheva Brochos.
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