Public Opinion Survey: Views on Israel's Response to Iran

[mevinyavin]

To me it looked like the Iranian attack was a financial attack.

Very much this. Regardless of any other objectives, this was guaranteed.

[jj1000]

Very much this. Regardless of any other objectives, this was guaranteed.

Very much a pundits 20/20 point of view after seeing an article on the cost of one night.

IMO it's for sure false.

Israel is now closer to getting $14B in aid from the US than they have been in months.

And if Iran were to keep going they'd all but guarantee that aid.

[mevinyavin]

Very much a pundits 20/20 point of view after seeing an article on the cost of one night.

IMO it's for sure false.

Israel is now closer to getting $14B in aid from the US than they have been in months.

And if Iran were to keep going they'd all but guarantee that aid.

Perhaps, though the aid itself is its own can of worms. But I've been thinking along these lines regarding the missiles from Gaza since 2017 when I saw what that defense costed.

[AsherO]

Perhaps, though the aid itself is its own can of worms. But I've been thinking along these lines regarding the missiles from Gaza since 2017 when I saw what that defense costed.

It comes with strings attached, that braid themselves into a leash.

[CountValentine]

Israel is now closer to getting $14B in aid from the US than they have been in months.

And if Iran were to keep going they'd all but guarantee that aid.

The aid was always guaranteed but the political games had to be played.
Support Israel to fight terrorist and support Ukraine to fight Russia is a no-brainer.

[Yehuda57]

Support Israel to fight terrorist and support Ukraine to fight Russia is a no-brainer.

Oh yeah? Then why is it the ones with no brains who oppose it?

[CountValentine]

Oh yeah? Then why is it the ones with no brains who oppose it?

...because they follow their no brain leader?

[yfr bachur]

My opinion is that Israel needs to act with long term strategic vision.
Hitting Iran just to hit them, as the stupid people in the WH leaked about their "worries" about Israel - is pointless.
The need to carefully evaluate the long term consequences of each action or non action ant decide what best serves Israels long term strategic interests

[CountValentine]

I will put my money on Israel and their partners exploiting what they learned from this massive failure.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-navy-warships-shot-down-iranian-missiles-with-a-weapon-they-ve-never-used-in-combat-before/ar-BB1lJ1RN?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=debb4c1743244e039480a62974508532&ei=26

[CountValentine]

Israel is in a real pickle. It seems they were not prepared for this.

[UKinNYS]

It seems a decision has been made already. (Security cabinet already gave the PM authority to act)
https://www.timesofisrael.com/after-meeting-herzog-uks-cameron-says-clear-israel-will-respond-to-iran-attack/

[CountValentine]

From day one they painted themselves in a corner with their statements. They have no choice at this point to but respond.

Every mocked Biden for saying "don't" but that gave him all the wiggle room in the world.

[Yehuda57]

Every mocked Biden for saying "don't" but that gave him all the wiggle room in the world.

Who mocked it? I think if you go back to the Echo Chamber Thread™, you will find that pretty much everyone loved his speeches then, including the "Don't". It was memed in a good way.

But Iran didn't listen, first through their Yemen and Hizbullah proxies, and then on their own. And the "Don't" is revealing itself to be a meme in a not so good way, much like Obama's red line

[CountValentine]

Who mocked it? I think if you go back to the Echo Chamber Thread™, you will find that pretty much everyone loved his speeches then, including the "Don't". It was memed in a good way.

But Iran didn't listen, first through their Yemen and Hizbullah proxies, and then on their own. And the "Don't" is revealing itself to be a meme in a not so good way, much like Obama's red line

Obama's red line or any red line is a mistake.
We had a red line for troop withdraws which ended in disaster. Pick your side who to blame.
The EC is Biden didn't back up his "don't". He backed it up 100% based on his meaning.

Israel made it clear from right after the attack they will respond. They have no choice now just as Iran had no choice to respond to the bombing of the embassy/consulate/annex building.

[jj1000]

Israel is in a real pickle.

It will be interesting to see how they respond. The best response IMO would be a virus like they've done in the past. Or a targeted assassination of someone else very high up. Boming a drone and missile factory would be great as well, especially if it was done on the ground on not via airspace.

[CountValentine]

It will be interesting to see how they respond. The best response IMO would be a virus like they've done in the past. Or a targeted assassination of someone else very high up. Boming a drone and missile factory would be great as well, especially if it was done on the ground on not via airspace.

Taking out targets not in Iran (or embassies) would be the best result. There are a ton of those targets.

If they are going to hit Iran directly then they need to take out their ability to respond. Don't think that is possible.

[jj1000]

Taking out targets not in Iran (or embassies) would be the best result. There are a ton of those targets.

If they are going to hit Iran directly, then they need to take out their ability to respond. Don't think that is possible.

Real talk, though.

Is all out war with Iran the BEST solution to stop them from getting The Bomb?

Perhaps luring the US and allies into all-out war IS, in fact, the best move for Israel.

If Iran gets the bomb one day, Middle East politics will be forever changed, and Israel may actually cease to exist as we know it today.

But an all out war with Iran now, can potentially prevent that for generations.

[CountValentine]

Perhaps luring the US and allies into all-out war IS, in fact, the best move for Israel.

That would be best for Israel but not going to happen.

[Yehuda57]

just as Iran had no choice to respond to the bombing of the embassy/consulate/annex building.

Iran declared war on Israel more than 40 years ago. They threaten to obliterate Israel off the map on a practically daily basis. They don't just speak though, they have created, supported, funded, controlled, and cheered many different countries and terrorist organizations over the years who are actively trying to do just that. Iran is directly responsible for thousands of Israeli lives, and untold billions upon billions of dollars of military defense, and the unquantifiable damage of a civilization living under constant threat of rocket attacks with only seconds to make it to a shelter.

Israel has assassinated many of its military and nuclear program leaders over the years. The notion that this attack was some sort of escalation that *needed* to be responded to is silly.

One thing that Iran has not done is send cruise and ballistic missiles themselves. I'm not sure if you saw the size of those things, they are massively powerful, *each* with the ability to kill hundreds. The fact that Israel and its allies were mostly able to defend them doesn't take away from how close they were to massive catastrophes. If this is not responded to, it becomes the new normal, just like rocket attacks in southern Israel (and now north). Speak to people who live there, it is not a way of life that any government should allow their citizens to live under. And it's to Israel's great shame that they have allowed their citizens to live like that for years.

So yes, Israel has no choice but to respond. Not because they said they would, but because their survival depends on it.

[Moshe123]

Israel is f****d. No good options when you aren't ready to wage a real war with inevitable heavy destruction and try to actually win.

Zionism was a bad idea. The world was never going to let Jews have it easy.