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help planning trip to europe
« on: May 30, 2010, 04:13:30 PM »
i have 150,000 starwood points plus 100,00 aa miles ( wife has 25,000) plus 50000 amex membership rewards. I was wondering if anybody can help me out to find availibilty for a trip from new york to italy and france with these points. I would like to go mid august for 10 days. i would love to fly business but up to coach as to use the rest of points for hotel stays. thsi trip is for 2 people. I would love if someone can help me.

I did open an ana account but its a little difficult to use . thank you so so much

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Re: help planning trip to europe
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2010, 04:51:43 PM »
 how long in each city, day of week to leave, what were you able to come with

show us some of your homework = you in fact tried and others will help. if you cant seem to get the hang of ANA then you should be asking how to use it.

no sense in doing all the work for U when the problem maybe U not knowing how to navigate ANA, since you will only be back here asking again for us to do everything for you the next time

 so instead of asking us to do your work, ask us where you are having problems with ANA, it is very easy but it can be a bit of ahassle having to check each and every Carrier and hub separately but Im 100% positive that you that its not out of laziness on your part and wanting us to waste our time doing it so that you dont have to waste yours

its so much better to learn to fish then be given food for 1 meal, as you will only keep coming bcak for more meals rather than doing your own fishing ;-)

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Re: help planning trip to europe
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2010, 05:50:55 PM »
sorry i fully understand .  from what I read it  make sense to do 3 days in rome , then 3 days in venice and like 4 days in paris give or take. im a flexible in regards to what days to leave as to what i can the best bang of buck . my first question is should i just use my aa miles for flights and starpoints for hotels?

and second since i want to fly to italy but fly back from paris i was wondering how that works and which airlines let you do it?

also does it make sense to transfer starwood points to us air for 50& bonus?

also when checking ana i know that i have to each segment separately but how do i know which flights are availible?

i would really appreciate your help. i do alot of reasearch and read this website plus many other websites every single day and wouldnt have all these points if it wasnt for all your great advice.

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Re: help planning trip to europe
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2010, 05:57:37 PM »
Venice is enough 2 days unless you are visiting the islands as well (very nice), or are staying over shabbes.
Rome could be done in 2 days, but a bit more in debt would be 3 days. You could by train to Florence (Firenze) and a quick jump to Pisa just for the tower.

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Re: help planning trip to europe
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2010, 06:07:57 PM »
from what i read shabbos in venice is amazing and would love to go to rome and maybe  florence . this is once in a lifetime trip for me and my wife. so i would would be greatly appreciative for all your help. and if there is anything i can do for you i will. so i need advice as to which airport to fly into i.e rome and then maybe fly out of venice to paris back to jfk or ewr. but i am not sure where you get the most bang for your buck or POINTS :)


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Re: help planning trip to europe
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2010, 08:56:59 PM »
Here is just a quick calculation.
Both AA and US are going to set you back 100k each in business class.
Since you already have 100k on AA, you can use your points and then all you'll need is another 60k stairpoints to get your wife up to 100k. This will leave you with 90k starpoints.
With their 50% bonus  and their flexibility in routing rules, US is a great option. However since you are starting with zero its going to cost you 110k starpoints (including the bonus) to get 200k miles on US. This will leave you with only 40k starpoints.
From a pure $$ perspective, AA miles are worth 1.4 cents each and SPG 2.0 c/e. (These are not definite prices but I believe they are gettable).
So if you get flights on AA you are left with 90k *points @ 2.0=$1800
If you get flights on US you will still have 125k AA miles @ 1.4=$1750
+ 40k *points @ 2.0=$800, Grand total=$2550
So best bang for the Buck is with US, and the routing rules make it easier to go where and when you want.
After all that said, it does depend on availability on the airlines. Secondly if you don't want to spend a cent on flights and hotels, I don't think 40k *points is enough. On the other hand, cash+points is great value and should be enough.( I'm not very familiar with the rates of  the European SPG properties, if someone could give us an idea of prices  points and cash+points). But again, not always available.
Enough of my rambling, if you have any questions just ask.
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Re: help planning trip to europe
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2010, 09:41:23 PM »
aussie guy thank you so much. your math is great
how does 60k starwood = 100 . i thought 60 will get 75 with the bonus
 and i thought i cant transfer starwood to aa.

and I am open to flying coach which i would believe then would be enough points to pay for hotel and flights? not sure if have enough aa miles though? and can i transfer aa miles from wife to my account?
thank you so so much

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Re: help planning trip to europe
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2010, 09:42:30 PM »
Here is an itinerary on Star Alliance, it is available but I'm not sure about the stop-over and open-jaw policy. If the pros could help, please.
At any rate, just to get a feeling for dates and locations, what do you love and what do you hate?

Mon 8/16 LX 019, EWR-ZRH, 21:30-11:35+1 day, Business
Tue 8/17 LX 1763, ZRH-FCO, 12:30-14:05, Business
3 Nights in Rome.
Fri 8/20 LH 3867, FCO-MUC, 6:45-8:25, Business
Fri 8/20 LH4092, MUC-VCE, 11:10-12:10, Business
3 Nights in Venice
Mon 8/23 LX1663, VCE-ZRH, 14:45-15:55, Business
Mon 8/23 LX 644, ZRH-CDG, 18:15-19:30, Business
3 Nights in Paris
Thurs 8/26 LH 4219, CDG-FRA, 14:05-15:15, Business
Thurs 8/26 LH 404, FRA-JFK, 17:00-19:40, Business

EWR-Newark
ZRH-Zurich
FCO-Rome
MUC-Munich
VCE-Venice
CDG-Paris
FRA-Frankfurt
JFK-New York

What do you think?
Just remember, when booking award tickets, you must be flexible.

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Re: help planning trip to europe
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2010, 09:49:12 PM »
aussie guy thank you so much. your math is great
how does 60k starwood = 100 . i thought 60 will get 75 with the bonus
 and i thought i cant transfer starwood to aa.

and I am open to flying coach which i would believe then would be enough points to pay for hotel and flights? not sure if have enough aa miles though? and can i transfer aa miles from wife to my account?
thank you so so much
You mentioned in the OP that your wife has 25k AA miles. If you transfer 60k *points to her and then in turn to AA, she will have 100k miles.

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Re: help planning trip to europe
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2010, 09:51:58 PM »
this is once in a lifetime trip for me and my wife.
Fly business class!

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Re: help planning trip to europe
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2010, 09:55:20 PM »
thank you so much this is amazing. how many miles will this cost for both of us
and is it cheaper or better or less miles  to just take the train from rome to venice

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Re: help planning trip to europe
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2010, 10:03:50 PM »
thank you so much this is amazing. how many miles will this cost for both of us
and is it cheaper or better or less miles  to just take the train from rome to venice
US charges 100k from North America to Europe. See earlier post for how many *points that will be.
The 100k covers the entire trip, wheather you fly there and back directly or you stop over, but there are certain rules. If this itinerary is allowed then it wont cost any more.

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Re: help planning trip to europe
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2010, 11:18:33 PM »
so your recommending transfering my miles to us airways instead of aa miles

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Re: help planning trip to europe
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2010, 11:29:51 PM »
so your recommending transfering my miles to us airways instead of aa miles
Personally, yes. It might mean shelling out a couple dollars for the hotel, ( but you keep your AA miles), or swapping AA for Spg. Refer back to the maths above.
But, I would wait for a second opinion. At the end of the day its up to you, do you want to use more points and not spend money or spend a little money and have more points for a later occasion.

Don't forget that to get the bonus on US, you MUST register first.

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Re: help planning trip to europe
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2010, 12:57:07 AM »
how long does it take for the bonus points to post