Author Topic: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using AMEX Membership Rewards Points (Read 55201 times)

skyguy918 · « **Reply #60 on:** July 04, 2011, 09:39:18 AM »

Quote from: Dan on October 10, 2010, 11:28:28 AM

Using Delta miles
-You can also transfer to Delta Skypesos to avoid fuel surcharges for travel originating in the US (Delta charges fuel surcharges for travel originating outside of the US), but their mileage rates are variable. Coach can be between 80,000 and 190,000 and business can be between 120,000 and 370,000.

Dan, maybe you should edit this paragraph. The line about travel originating in the US is throwing people off. Shouldn't it be more like this?

"You can also transfer to Delta Skypesos to avoid fuel surcharges for travel originating in outside the US (Delta charges fuel surcharges for travel originating outside of the US)..."

AsherO · « **Reply #61 on:** July 04, 2011, 09:59:12 AM »

Quote from: skyguy918 on July 04, 2011, 09:39:18 AM

Dan, maybe you should edit this paragraph. The line about travel originating in the US is throwing people off. Shouldn't it be more like this?

"You can also transfer to Delta Skypesos to avoid fuel surcharges for travel originating in outside the US (Delta charges fuel surcharges for travel originating outside of the US)..."

Or you could say something like:

"You can also transfer to Delta Skypesos for travel originating in the US (this is how you avoid fuel surcharges with Delta, as Delta charges fuel surcharges for travel originating outside of the US)"
.

Dan · « **Reply #62 on:** July 04, 2011, 10:40:06 AM »

Quote from: skyguy918 on July 04, 2011, 09:39:18 AM

Dan, maybe you should edit this paragraph. The line about travel originating in the US is throwing people off. Shouldn't it be more like this?

"You can also transfer to Delta Skypesos to avoid fuel surcharges for travel originating in outside the US (Delta charges fuel surcharges for travel originating outside of the US)..."

You lost me there??

Quote from: AsherO on July 04, 2011, 09:59:12 AM

Or you could say something like:

"You can also transfer to Delta Skypesos for travel originating in the US (this is how you avoid fuel surcharges with Delta, as Delta charges fuel surcharges for travel originating outside of the US)"
.

That makes more sense.

I need to update other stuff as well in the chart...I'll have to get around to it.

doublejay · « **Reply #63 on:** July 04, 2011, 10:44:06 AM »

Quote from: Dan on July 04, 2011, 10:40:06 AM

Quote from: skyguy918 on Today at 09:39:18 AM

Dan, maybe you should edit this paragraph. The line about travel originating in the US is throwing people off. Shouldn't it be more like this?

"You can also transfer to Delta Skypesos to avoid fuel surcharges for travel originating in outside the US (Delta charges fuel surcharges for travel originating outside of the US)..."

You lost me there??

Quote from: AsherO on Today at 09:59:12 AM

Or you could say something like:

"You can also transfer to Delta Skypesos for travel originating in the US (this is how you avoid fuel surcharges with Delta, as Delta charges fuel surcharges for travel originating outside of the US)"
.

That makes more sense.

I need to update other stuff as well in the chart...I'll have to get around to it.

Dan, isn't the surcharge for flights originating outside of the U.S.?

skyguy918 · « **Reply #64 on:** July 04, 2011, 10:46:35 AM »

Think I'm a little lost on the facts now, but I guess I was right about the wording being a little off.

What's the advantage of transferring to Skypesos if you're only ever going to be booking travel originating in the US? For the purposes of this thread, I understand the if you're booking TLV-JFK you want to use Skypesos, but if you're booking JFK-TLV, why not just use regular old Skymiles?

Dan · « **Reply #65 on:** July 04, 2011, 10:55:12 AM »

Quote from: skyguy918 on July 04, 2011, 10:46:35 AM

Think I'm a little lost on the facts now, but I guess I was right about the wording being a little off.

What's the advantage of transferring to Skypesos if you're only ever going to be booking travel originating in the US? For the purposes of this thread, I understand the if you're booking TLV-JFK you want to use Skypesos, but if you're booking JFK-TLV, why not just use regular old Skymiles?

OMG...ROFL, LMAO!!!

skyguy918 · « **Reply #66 on:** July 04, 2011, 10:56:41 AM »

I don't mind being laughed at, as long as you explain in the end.

myb821 · « **Reply #67 on:** July 04, 2011, 10:58:06 AM »

Skypesos=skymiles skymiles r called skypesos bc ppl think they r not worth very much

skyguy918 · « **Reply #68 on:** July 04, 2011, 10:59:41 AM »

Now that I actually understand what's going on, how would one book travel originating outside the US on Delta without incurring fuel surcharges.

doublejay · « **Reply #69 on:** July 04, 2011, 11:00:52 AM »

Quote from: myb821 on July 04, 2011, 10:58:06 AM

Skypesos=skymiles skymiles r called skypesos bc ppl think they r not worth very much

I was confused by the whole skypesos thing too. My bad.

Dan · « **Reply #70 on:** July 04, 2011, 11:00:53 AM »

Quote from: skyguy918 on July 04, 2011, 10:59:41 AM

Now that I actually understand what's going on, how would one book travel originating outside the US on Delta without incurring fuel surcharges.

You don't.

myb821 · « **Reply #71 on:** July 04, 2011, 11:01:11 AM »

U can't

skyguy918 · « **Reply #72 on:** July 04, 2011, 11:05:45 AM »

Just reread it from the beginning. You were saying for Skyteam originating outside US you can't avoid surcharges anyway so might as well go with the cheaper Alitalia or Flying Blue. But for Skyteam originating inside the US it's worth paying the slight premium in miles with Delta to avoid the surcharge. Took me a while.

Now I'm off to post enough in Up in The Air to bury this thread so no one sees my boo-boo.

(There should be one with red cheeks and a sheepish grin for embarrassed)

AsherO · « **Reply #73 on:** July 04, 2011, 11:06:43 AM »

Quote from: skyguy918 on July 04, 2011, 11:05:45 AM

(There should be one with red cheeks and a sheepish grin for embarrassed)

There is one:

skyguy918 · « **Reply #74 on:** July 04, 2011, 11:10:13 AM »

It's also funny that Skymiles have this terrible rep here. With the current 50% bonus amex xfer bonus I've found all my best values with Delta (I've booked business tickets JFK-TLV direct late August and early November for 80k amex mr points, hard to get better value than that). Obviously these things always depend on availability for one's specific itinerary, and in general they have very little at the lowest mileage rate, but so far I'm pretty happy with Skymiles.

Quote from: AsherO on July 04, 2011, 11:06:43 AM

There is one:

I read that as sad or something. I meant with a smiley.

AsherO · « **Reply #75 on:** July 04, 2011, 11:12:25 AM »

Quote from: skyguy918 on July 04, 2011, 11:10:13 AM

I read that as sad or something. I meant with a smiley.

Hover over it, it's clearly an embarrassed emoticon.

skyguy918 · « **Reply #76 on:** July 04, 2011, 11:16:03 AM »

Quote from: AsherO on July 04, 2011, 11:12:25 AM

Hover over it, it's clearly an embarrassed emoticon.

Indeed. I'm feeling more of a sheepish grin type of embarrassed right now, though.

kivabb · « **Reply #77 on:** July 11, 2011, 10:23:28 AM »

So is Air Canada Aeroplan with MR points the way to go after Continental to avoid fuel surcharges (as long as you're not flying Air CAnada themselves)? Is it also 80/120K to Israel?

Dan · « **Reply #78 on:** July 11, 2011, 11:19:47 AM »

Y/J/F
AC: 80/135/190
CO: 80/120/170
US: 80/120/180

kivabb · « **Reply #79 on:** July 11, 2011, 01:14:30 PM »

Quote from: Dan on July 11, 2011, 11:19:47 AM

Y/J/F
AC: 80/135/190
CO: 80/120/170
US: 80/120/180

But what options are we left with for MR points? Just AC and CO (for now)?